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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, aviro@redhat.com,
	Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NFS: Replace null dentries that appear in readdir's list [try #2]
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 14:15:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3976.1156079732@warthog.cambridge.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060819094840.083026fd.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> wrote:

> The funny-looking dentries in /net/bix have gone away.
> 
> But `ls -l /net/bix/usr/src' doesn't mount bix:/usr/src.

Yes, that I believe is due to the automounter program combined with that
optimisation in the NFS client code.  *readdir* fixes the falsely negative
dentry, but only if you _do_ a readdir of the parent directory, and only then
if you read enough of the directory to locate the dodgy dentry.

This is normally only a problem if SELinux aborts the mkdir operation between
calling the filesystem's lookup() op and the filesystem's mkdir() op, if the
filesystem is written - as NFS is - to assume the the lookup() op _will_ be
followed by a call to the mkdir() op whatever happens.  Unfortunately, with
SELinux sticking its foot in the way, this no longer holds true, and the
initial lookup _must_ properly instantiate the dentry it is given - and that
means it must query the server in such a case.

That said, that will likely prevent autofs from being able to create arbitrary
directories if the underlying security constraints don't let it.

There is another problem with autofs arbitrarily creating directory dentries
in this manner: the automount program doesn't know whether the directory it is
creating corresponds to a directory on the server - or whether it corresponds
to a symbolic link...  The server _must_ be queried.

So, I think:

 (1) I have to change my patch again, and that I have to make nfs_lookup()
     unconditionally query the server (comments Trond?), and

 (2) Ian has to patch the automounter to not attempt to mount undermounts
     automatically - with the new in-NFS-client automounting code, this should
     be unnecessary, except for when the an intervening directory is
     inaccessible, and I'm not sure what you can do about that (Ian? Trond?)

David


  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-20 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 186+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-13  8:24 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-08-13 11:45 ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Maciej Rutecki
2006-08-13 19:11   ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-08-13 22:44     ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Ben Buxton
2006-08-13 22:58       ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-08-13 23:25       ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Dave Jones
2006-08-14 11:55         ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Ben Buxton
2006-08-14 20:20           ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Dave Jones
2006-08-14 21:13             ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Ben B
2006-08-14 21:22               ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Dave Jones
2006-08-14 21:46             ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-08-14  0:00       ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2006-08-14 12:03         ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Ben B
2006-08-14 13:45           ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2006-08-14 21:44             ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Ben B
2006-08-15  2:23               ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2022-08-14  8:42     ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Maciej Rutecki
2006-08-14  9:12       ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-14 11:35         ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Maciej Rutecki
2006-08-15  0:27       ` Linux Kernel Developer opening Eric Radman
2006-08-17 12:22       ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Andreas Mohr
2006-08-18 10:30         ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Andy Whitcroft
2006-08-13 23:58   ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]     ` <d120d5000608140643tddd9ce4o986560740ef5dbd7@mail.gmail.com>
2006-08-14 18:24       ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Maciej Rutecki
2006-08-13 12:24 ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-08-14  6:36   ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Reuben Farrelly
2006-08-14  9:06     ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-13 12:43 ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-13 14:32 ` [patch] fix posix timer errors Frederik Deweerdt
2006-08-13 17:23   ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-13 15:30 ` [-mm patch] arch/i386/mm/ioremap.c must #include <asm/cacheflush.h> Adrian Bunk
2006-08-13 15:30 ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1: drivers/video/sis/ compile error Adrian Bunk
2006-08-13 16:29   ` Michal Piotrowski
2006-08-13 16:40     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-13 17:20       ` Michal Piotrowski
2006-08-13 17:38 ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Laurent Riffard
2006-08-13 20:39 ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-08-14  7:58   ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 David Howells
2006-08-14  8:06   ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Ian Kent
2006-08-14  9:32     ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 David Howells
2006-08-14 17:16       ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-08-14 18:12         ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 David Howells
2006-08-14 18:17           ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 David Howells
2006-08-14 18:24           ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-08-14 18:32   ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 David Howells
2006-08-14 21:31     ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-08-15  9:51       ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 David Howells
2006-08-15 13:50         ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-08-15 14:47           ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 David Howells
2006-08-15 16:15             ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-08-15 17:29           ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 David Howells
2006-08-15 17:48             ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-08-15 18:35               ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 David Howells
2006-08-15 18:49                 ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-08-15 19:20                   ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 David Howells
2006-08-16  9:34                   ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 David Howells
2006-08-16 10:00                     ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 David Howells
2006-08-16 12:23                       ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 David Howells
2006-08-16 12:58                         ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Ian Kent
2006-08-16 13:20                           ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 David Howells
2006-08-16 12:36                     ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Ian Kent
2006-08-14 22:49   ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Trond Myklebust
2006-08-14 23:51     ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-08-15 16:39     ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 David Howells
2006-08-15 16:55     ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 David Howells
2006-08-15 17:13       ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Trond Myklebust
2006-08-15 17:22         ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 David Howells
2006-08-16 15:15   ` [PATCH] NFS: Revalidate on readdir referring to null dentry David Howells
2006-08-16 15:49     ` Trond Myklebust
2006-08-16 16:15       ` [PATCH] NFS: Replace null dentries that appear in readdir's list David Howells
2006-08-16 16:35         ` Trond Myklebust
2006-08-17  5:12         ` Ian Kent
2006-08-17  7:42         ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-17 12:13           ` David Howells
2006-08-17 12:33             ` David Howells
2006-08-18  9:09             ` David Howells
2006-08-17 13:24           ` David Howells
2006-08-17 13:45           ` David Howells
2006-08-18  0:47         ` Ian Kent
2006-08-18  9:21           ` David Howells
2006-08-18  0:58         ` Ian Kent
2006-08-18  1:05           ` Ian Kent
2006-08-18  9:38         ` [PATCH] NFS: Replace null dentries that appear in readdir's list [try #2] David Howells
2006-08-19 16:48           ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-20 13:15             ` David Howells [this message]
2006-08-20 14:25               ` Ian Kent
2006-08-21  9:42                 ` David Howells
2006-08-21 11:35                   ` Ian Kent
2006-08-21 12:16                     ` David Howells
2006-08-21 13:33                       ` Ian Kent
2006-08-21 15:17                         ` David Howells
2006-08-22  2:04                           ` Ian Kent
2006-08-22  3:29                           ` Ian Kent
2006-08-22  4:10                             ` Trond Myklebust
2006-08-13 21:00 ` [-mm patch] make drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_ondemand.c:powersave_bias_target() static Adrian Bunk
2006-08-13 21:00 ` [-mm patch] make drivers/hwmon/hdaps.c:transform_axes() static Adrian Bunk
2006-08-13 22:56   ` Shem Multinymous
2006-08-13 21:00 ` [-mm patch] drivers/media/dvb/frontends/: make 4 functions static Adrian Bunk
2006-08-13 21:00 ` [-mm patch] drivers/char/drm/: cleanups Adrian Bunk
2006-08-13 21:00 ` [-mm patch] kernel/time/ntp.c: possible cleanups Adrian Bunk
2006-08-13 21:01 ` [-mm patch] cleanup drivers/ata/Kconfig Adrian Bunk
2006-08-13 22:46   ` Alan Cox
2006-08-14 22:12     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-14 18:28   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-14 22:33     ` [libata " Adrian Bunk
2006-08-15  7:51   ` [-mm " Greg KH
2006-08-15  9:39     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-13 21:01 ` [-mm patch] net/decnet/: cleanups Adrian Bunk
2006-08-13 21:01 ` [-mm patch] net/ipv6/ip6_fib.c: make code static Adrian Bunk
2006-08-13 21:01 ` [-mm patch] Kconfig: move CRYPTO to the "Cryptographic options" menu Adrian Bunk
2006-08-13 22:40   ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-13 23:01 ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1: ATI SB600 SATA drivers: modpost errors Adrian Bunk
2006-08-14  7:00 ` [patch -mm] s390: remove HIGHMEM dependencies Heiko Carstens
2006-08-14 14:13   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-08-14 14:02 ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-08-14 18:19   ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-08-14 19:01     ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-08-14 19:20       ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 john stultz
2006-08-14 19:27         ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-08-14 19:44           ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 john stultz
2006-08-14 20:48             ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-08-14 20:56               ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Dave Jones
2006-08-14 21:13                 ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-08-14 21:20                   ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Dave Jones
2006-08-14 22:08                     ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-08-14 14:38 ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1: eth0: trigger_send() called with the transmitter busy Laurent Riffard
2006-08-14 16:50   ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-14 17:47     ` Laurent Riffard
2006-08-14 20:06       ` Laurent Riffard
2006-08-14 21:25         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-14 23:01           ` Laurent Riffard
2006-08-15 10:10             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-15 15:38               ` Laurent Riffard
2006-08-15 16:39                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-14 15:11 ` [-mm PATCH] ioremap: fixed MIPS build error Yoichi Yuasa
2006-08-14 17:54 ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-14 18:15   ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-08-15 14:07   ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Atsushi Nemoto
2006-08-15 17:14     ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-15 13:25 ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 BUG, drm related Frederik Deweerdt
2006-08-15 14:16   ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-15 17:37     ` Frederik Deweerdt
2006-08-15 16:21       ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 11:11         ` oops while loading snd-seq-oss (was: Re: 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 BUG, drm related) Frederik Deweerdt
2006-08-18 15:52           ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 15:58             ` Takashi Iwai
2006-08-18 18:44               ` Frederik Deweerdt
2006-08-18 19:43                 ` Frederik Deweerdt
2006-08-18 18:45             ` Frederik Deweerdt
2006-08-19 23:08   ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 BUG, drm relatedy Frederik Deweerdt
2006-08-21 11:24     ` Dave Airlie
2006-08-21 14:08       ` Frederik Deweerdt
2006-08-21 23:48         ` Dave Airlie
2006-08-16  9:41 ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 -- new depancy on curses development Andy Whitcroft
2006-08-16 10:35   ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-08-16 18:33   ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-08-16 19:26     ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-08-16 11:44 ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 BUG null pointer deref while saving a file Helge Hafting
2006-08-16 14:28   ` Dave Kleikamp
2006-08-18  8:24     ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-18 12:20       ` Dave Kleikamp
2006-08-17 22:10 ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 Spurious ACK/NAK on isa0060/serio0, 2.6.18-rc2 is fine Helge Hafting
2006-08-17 22:34   ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-18 21:56     ` Greg KH
2006-08-19 11:00       ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-17 22:44 ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 - time moving at 3x speed! Helge Hafting
2006-08-17 23:15   ` john stultz
2006-08-18  8:18     ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-18  9:34     ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-18  9:30       ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-18 10:55         ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-18 10:01           ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-18 10:24             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-08-18 11:21             ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-18 22:23             ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-08-19 10:50           ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 - time moving at 3x speed, bisect finished Helge Hafting
2006-08-20 17:06             ` Roman Zippel
2006-08-20 17:51               ` thunder7
2006-08-20 19:24                 ` Roman Zippel
2006-08-20 19:42                   ` thunder7
2006-08-20 21:47                     ` 2.6.18-rc4-mm1 - time moving at 3x speed, fix confirmed Helge Hafting
2006-08-19 23:16 ` [mm patch] drm, minor fixes Frederik Deweerdt
2006-08-20  9:37   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-20 12:17     ` Frederik Deweerdt
2006-08-21 11:22       ` Dave Airlie
2006-08-20 14:48 ` [PATCH -mm] agp.h: constify struct agp_bridge_data::version Alexey Dobriyan

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