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From: Dan Kegel <dank@alumni.caltech.edu>
To: John Gardiner Myers <jgmyers@netscape.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Readiness vs. completion (was: Re: Linux's implementation ofpoll()not scalable?)
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:18:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <39FDC97C.456478E1@alumni.caltech.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <39FCC2B8.DA281B4C@alumni.caltech.edu> <39FDC42A.CD9C3D12@netscape.com>

John Gardiner Myers wrote:
> 
> Dan Kegel wrote:
> > IMHO you're describing a situation where a 'completion notification event'
> > (as with aio) would be more appropriate than a 'readiness notification event'
> > (as with poll).
> 
> I've found that I want both types of events, preferably through the same
> interface.  

That's good to know.

> To provide a "completion notification event" interface on
> top of an existing nonblocking interface, one needs an "async poll"
> mechanism with edge-triggered events with no event coalescing.

If you have a top-notch completion notification event interface
provided natively by the OS, though, does that get rid of the
need for the "async poll" mechanism?
 
> You are correct in recognizing NT completion ports from my description.
> While the NT completion port interface is ugly as sin, it gets a number
> of performance issues right.
> 
> > And, come to think of it, network programmers usually can be categorized
> > into the same two groups :-)  Each style of programming is an acquired taste.
> 
> I would say that the "completion notification" style is a paradigm
> beyond the "readiness notification" style.  I started with the select()
> model of network programming and have since learned the clear
> superiority of the "completion notificatin" style.

Both seem to have their place, and deserve good support, IMHO.

- Dan
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-10-31  7:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-10-30  0:37 Readiness vs. completion (was: Re: Linux's implementation of poll() not scalable?) Dan Kegel
2000-10-30 18:55 ` Readiness vs. completion (was: Re: Linux's implementation of poll()not scalable?) John Gardiner Myers
2000-10-30 19:18   ` Dan Kegel [this message]
2000-10-30 20:44     ` Readiness vs. completion (was: Re: Linux's implementationofpoll()not scalable?) John Gardiner Myers

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