Ok, something happend to the tulip driver in the recent testN kernels. I haven't found a reason why it happens and I can't easily reproduce it but what happens is noted on the subject line. I have three machines now that do this. It's unfixable until reboot (I don't have these as modules). I have a suspicion that it's triggered by large amounts of traffic. My brother feels he is able to trigger it repeatedly by doing big transfers between a w9x box and a linux box. -d -- "The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."