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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
To: "Hen, Shmulik" <shmulik.hen@intel.com>
Cc: "'LKML'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"'LNML'" <linux-net@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Locking Between User Context and Soft IRQs in 2.4.0
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 04:45:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A03DABD.AF4B9AD5@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <07E6E3B8C072D211AC4100A0C9C5758302B27077@hasmsx52.iil.intel.com>

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"Hen, Shmulik" wrote:
> We are trying to port a network driver from 2.2.x to 2.4.x and have some
> question regarding locks.
> According to the kernel locking HOWTO, we have to take extra care when
> locking between user context threads and BH/tasklet/softIRQ,
> so we learned (the hard way ;-) that when running the ioctl system call from
> an application we should use spin_lock/unlock_bh() and not
> spin_lock/unlock() inside dev->do_ioctl().

That is not necessarily true.  If you have timers or tasklets going,
sure.  I prefer kernel threads for a lot of tasks nowadays, because you
only have two cases for locking -- user and interrupt -- and you can
sleep all you want to in a kernel thread.


> *       What about the other entry points implemented in net_device ?

I wrote the attached doc, after tracing through the code.  It has not
been reviewed yet so it is not canonical, but hopefully it is
informative...


> *       We've got dev->get_stats, dev->set_mac_address,
> dev->set_mutlicast_list and others that are all called from running
> 'ifconfig' which is an application. Are they considered user context too ?

You are inside a spinlock in get_stats, so you cannot sleep.  But you
can sleep in set_multicast_list.  Not sure about set_mac_address.


> *       What about dev->open and dev->stop ?

Sleep all you want, we'll leave the light on for ya.


> *       We figured that dev->hard_start_xmit() and timer callbacks are not
> considered user context, but how can I find out if they are being run as
> SoftIRQ or as tasklets or as Bottom Halves ? (their different definitions
> require different types of protections)

I'm not sure about the context from which hard_start_xmit is called... 
Its inside a spinlock, so you shouldn't be sleeping.  timers are unique
unto themselves... but you lock against them using spin_lock_bh outside
the timer, and spin_lock inside the timer.

> wrap entire operations from top to bottom. For example, our
> dev->hard_start_xmit() will have a spin_lock() at the beginning and a
> spin_unlock() at the end of the function.

Why?  dev->xmit_lock is obtained before dev->hard_start_xmit is called,
and released after it returns.


> *       What about other calls to the kernel ? can the running thread be
> switched out of context when calling kernel entries and not be switched back
> in when they finish ? should I beware of deadlocks in such case ?

You should always beware of deadlocks!

	Jeff


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struct net_device synchronization rules
=======================================
dev->open:
	Locking: Inside rtnl_lock() semaphore.
	Sleeping: OK

dev->stop:
	Locking: Inside rtnl_lock() semaphore.
	Sleeping: OK

dev->do_ioctl:
	Locking: Inside rtnl_lock() semaphore.
	Sleeping: OK

dev->get_stats:
	Locking: Inside dev_base_lock spinlock.
	Sleeping: NO

dev->hard_start_xmit:
	Locking: Inside dev->xmit_lock spinlock.
	Sleeping: NO[1]

dev->tx_timeout:
	Locking: Inside dev->xmit_lock spinlock.
	Sleeping: NO[1]

dev->set_multicast_list:
	Locking: Inside dev->xmit_lock spinlock.
	Sleeping: NO[1]


NOTE [1]: On principle, you should not sleep when a spinlock is held.
However, since this spinlock is per-net-device, we only block ourselves
if we sleep, so the effect is mitigated.


  reply	other threads:[~2000-11-04  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-10-30 14:10 Locking Between User Context and Soft IRQs in 2.4.0 Hen, Shmulik
2000-11-04  9:45 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2000-11-04 10:19   ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-04 15:36     ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-04 16:56       ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-04 17:07         ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-05  0:38           ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-05  1:28             ` Andrew Morton
2000-11-05  1:52               ` Andrew Morton
2000-11-05  2:32               ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-05  3:39               ` Keith Owens
2000-11-05  3:47                 ` Keith Owens
2000-11-05 11:45                   ` Andrew Morton
2000-11-06  2:20                     ` Paul Gortmaker
2000-11-06  9:55                       ` Andrew Morton
2000-11-06 10:05                         ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 12:37                           ` Keith Owens
2000-11-06 12:49                             ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 12:58                               ` Keith Owens
2000-11-06 13:09                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 13:18                                   ` Keith Owens
2000-11-07  2:23                         ` Rusty Russell

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