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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: "Hen, Shmulik" <shmulik.hen@intel.com>,
	"'LKML'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"'LNML'" <linux-net@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Locking Between User Context and Soft IRQs in 2.4.0
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 10:36:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A042D04.5B3A7946@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <07E6E3B8C072D211AC4100A0C9C5758302B27077@hasmsx52.iil.intel.com> <3A03DABD.AF4B9AD5@mandrakesoft.com> <20001104111909.A11500@gruyere.muc.suse.de>

Andi Kleen wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 04:45:33AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> >
> > > *       What about dev->open and dev->stop ?
> >
> > Sleep all you want, we'll leave the light on for ya.
> 
> ... but make sure you have no module unload races (or at least not too
> huge holes, some are probably unavoidable with the current network
> driver interface, e.g. without moving module count management a bit up).
> This means you should do MOD_INC_USE_COUNT very early at least to
> minimize the windows (and DEC_USE_COUNT very late)

Can you provide a trace of a race or deadlock?  I do not see where there
are races in the current 2.4.x code.


> > dev->do_ioctl:
> >       Locking: Inside rtnl_lock() semaphore.
> >       Sleeping: OK
> 
> Just make sure you lock against your interrupt and xmit threads.

But of course :)  My doc only covered locks external to the driver.


> >       Locking: Inside dev->xmit_lock spinlock.
> >       Sleeping: NO[1]
> >
> >
> > NOTE [1]: On principle, you should not sleep when a spinlock is held.
> > However, since this spinlock is per-net-device, we only block ourselves
> > if we sleep, so the effect is mitigated.
> 
> Sounds like dangerous advice.

Probably... I changed the doc "just say no" :)

	Jeff


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  reply	other threads:[~2000-11-04 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-10-30 14:10 Locking Between User Context and Soft IRQs in 2.4.0 Hen, Shmulik
2000-11-04  9:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-04 10:19   ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-04 15:36     ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2000-11-04 16:56       ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-04 17:07         ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-05  0:38           ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-05  1:28             ` Andrew Morton
2000-11-05  1:52               ` Andrew Morton
2000-11-05  2:32               ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-05  3:39               ` Keith Owens
2000-11-05  3:47                 ` Keith Owens
2000-11-05 11:45                   ` Andrew Morton
2000-11-06  2:20                     ` Paul Gortmaker
2000-11-06  9:55                       ` Andrew Morton
2000-11-06 10:05                         ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 12:37                           ` Keith Owens
2000-11-06 12:49                             ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 12:58                               ` Keith Owens
2000-11-06 13:09                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 13:18                                   ` Keith Owens
2000-11-07  2:23                         ` Rusty Russell

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