From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
To: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
Cc: Andrew Morton <andrewm@uow.edu.au>,
Paul Gortmaker <p_gortmaker@yahoo.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
"'LKML'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"'LNML'" <linux-net@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Locking Between User Context and Soft IRQs in 2.4.0
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 08:09:28 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A06AD88.15640B7D@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3472.973515485@ocs3.ocs-net>
Keith Owens wrote:
>
> On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 07:49:00 -0500,
> Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com> wrote:
> >Keith Owens wrote:
> >> I prefer a requirement that all net drivers upgrade to the new
> >> interface, otherwise we have odd drivers using the old interface
> >> forever and being at risk of module unload. That is why I coded my
> >> patch as returning -ENODEV if there was no dev->open. However I have
> >> to accept that just before a 2.4 release is not the best time to have a
> >> flag day. Put it down for 2.5.
> >
> >What is "it" that gets put off until 2.5? Breaking net drivers with an
> >interface upgrade, or eliminating this race?
>
> Forcing all network drivers to define a dev->open routine.
>
> >There is absolutely no need to break drivers for this. Not only is it
> >needless pain, but doing so is inconsistent -- with struct
> >file_operations, I am free to have owner==NULL.
>
> True, but if you set owner==NULL for something that is really in a
> module then you are lying to the module layer. See foot, shoot foot.
You are missing the point here. If a driver is "old style", where
owner==NULL and it manually calls MOD_{INC,DEC}_USE_COUNT, things are
pretty much ok. There is a tiny race, but the system is mostly intact.
For never drivers "that matter," we update them to set
net_device::owner. But to me breaking all the net drivers to force such
a change is silly. For such a tiny race, there just isn't a pressing
need to update the stinkbomb crapola drivers...
Jeff
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Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-10-30 14:10 Locking Between User Context and Soft IRQs in 2.4.0 Hen, Shmulik
2000-11-04 9:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-04 10:19 ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-04 15:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-04 16:56 ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-04 17:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-05 0:38 ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-05 1:28 ` Andrew Morton
2000-11-05 1:52 ` Andrew Morton
2000-11-05 2:32 ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-05 3:39 ` Keith Owens
2000-11-05 3:47 ` Keith Owens
2000-11-05 11:45 ` Andrew Morton
2000-11-06 2:20 ` Paul Gortmaker
2000-11-06 9:55 ` Andrew Morton
2000-11-06 10:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 12:37 ` Keith Owens
2000-11-06 12:49 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 12:58 ` Keith Owens
2000-11-06 13:09 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2000-11-06 13:18 ` Keith Owens
2000-11-07 2:23 ` Rusty Russell
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