From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
To: "Jeff V. Merkey" <jmerkey@timpanogas.org>
Cc: kernel@kvack.org, Martin Josefsson <gandalf@wlug.westbo.se>,
Tigran Aivazian <tigran@veritas.com>,
Anil kumar <anils_r@yahoo.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Installing kernel 2.4
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 18:57:39 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A0896F3.AB36C3EE@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1001107175009.1482C-100000@kanga.kvack.org> <3A088C02.4528F66B@timpanogas.org>
Jeff Merkey wrote:
> here are tests for all this in the feature flags for intel and
> non-intel CPUs like AMD -- including MTRR settings. All of this could
> be dynamic. Here's some code that does this, and it's similiar to
> NetWare. It detexts CPU type, feature flags, special instructions,
> etc. All of this on x86 could be dynamically detected.
Jeff, I think you miss the point that 100% dynamic detection comes with
a penalty over the current system.
Using CONFIG_M586 enables us to compile with Pentium-specific
instructions, and eliminate any code specific to 386's or 486's. This
includes inlining Pentium-specific code into drivers and the core kernel
where possible, for the maximum possible performance. Your scheme
doesn't work because of all the inlined code, nor does it support
maximum performance code on all processors without massive code bloat...
You do bring up a good point though. Users compile their own kernels to
get the advantages I describe above. Vendors, on the other hand, must
compile one-size-fits-all generic kernels. Your expertise and
assistance would definitely benefit this case.
One change I would like to make in 2.5.x along these lines -- the Alpha
AXP port allow one to define either CONFIG_ALPHA_GENERIC -- support all
processors/machines -- or CONFIG_ALPHA_$MYMACHINE. It would be nice to
follow that model for x86 too. Currently, when I select CONFIG_M586, I
get code for 686, etc. There is no way to simply say "Pentium and
nothing else".
Jeff
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Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-11-07 20:52 Installing kernel 2.4 Anil kumar
2000-11-07 20:59 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-07 21:39 ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-07 22:28 ` Martin Josefsson
2000-11-07 22:32 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-07 22:51 ` kernel
2000-11-07 23:10 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-07 23:57 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2000-11-08 0:01 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 0:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-08 0:12 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-12-10 8:22 ` Mark W. McClelland
2000-11-09 13:40 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-08 2:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-08 7:35 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 0:54 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-08 3:31 ` Matthew Kirkwood
2000-11-08 0:11 ` David Lang
2000-11-07 23:39 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-07 23:51 ` Sven Koch
2000-11-07 23:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-08 0:18 ` David Relson
2000-11-08 0:23 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 0:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-08 0:52 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 0:49 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-08 0:47 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 0:57 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-08 0:54 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-07 22:52 ` J . A . Magallon
2000-11-07 22:54 ` J Sloan
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-11-07 22:49 Bruce_Holzrichter
2000-11-07 23:24 davej
2000-11-07 23:37 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-07 23:47 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-07 23:59 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 0:51 ` David Lang
2000-11-08 0:10 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 3:39 ` davej
2000-11-08 4:41 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 3:57 ` davej
2000-11-08 12:05 ` Horst von Brand
2000-11-08 15:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-11-08 16:51 ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-08 17:36 ` George Anzinger
2000-11-08 19:43 ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-08 20:32 ` George Anzinger
2000-11-08 22:01 ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-09 13:25 ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-09 18:24 ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-08 3:30 ` davej
2000-11-08 0:03 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-08 0:06 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 3:25 ` davej
2000-11-08 4:36 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 3:50 ` davej
2000-11-08 2:19 Marty Fouts
2000-11-08 2:25 Marty Fouts
2000-11-08 3:43 ` davej
2000-11-08 13:43 Jesse Pollard
2000-11-08 18:52 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 13:49 Bruce_Holzrichter
2000-11-08 15:10 ` davej
2000-11-08 19:16 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 19:19 David Feuer
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