From: "Jeff V. Merkey" <jmerkey@timpanogas.org>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
Cc: kernel@kvack.org, Martin Josefsson <gandalf@wlug.westbo.se>,
Tigran Aivazian <tigran@veritas.com>,
Anil kumar <anils_r@yahoo.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Installing kernel 2.4
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 17:01:57 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A0897F5.563552AD@timpanogas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1001107175009.1482C-100000@kanga.kvack.org> <3A088C02.4528F66B@timpanogas.org> <3A0896F3.AB36C3EE@mandrakesoft.com>
Jeff Garzik wrote:
>
> Jeff Merkey wrote:
> > here are tests for all this in the feature flags for intel and
> > non-intel CPUs like AMD -- including MTRR settings. All of this could
> > be dynamic. Here's some code that does this, and it's similiar to
> > NetWare. It detexts CPU type, feature flags, special instructions,
> > etc. All of this on x86 could be dynamically detected.
>
> Jeff, I think you miss the point that 100% dynamic detection comes with
> a penalty over the current system.
>
> Using CONFIG_M586 enables us to compile with Pentium-specific
> instructions, and eliminate any code specific to 386's or 486's. This
> includes inlining Pentium-specific code into drivers and the core kernel
> where possible, for the maximum possible performance. Your scheme
> doesn't work because of all the inlined code, nor does it support
> maximum performance code on all processors without massive code bloat...
>
> You do bring up a good point though. Users compile their own kernels to
> get the advantages I describe above. Vendors, on the other hand, must
> compile one-size-fits-all generic kernels. Your expertise and
> assistance would definitely benefit this case.
>
We need a format that allow multiple executable segments to be combined
in a single executable and the loader have enough smarts to grab the
right one based on architecture. two options:
1. extend gcc to support this or rearragne linux into segments based on
code type
2. Use PE.
Jeff
> One change I would like to make in 2.5.x along these lines -- the Alpha
> AXP port allow one to define either CONFIG_ALPHA_GENERIC -- support all
> processors/machines -- or CONFIG_ALPHA_$MYMACHINE. It would be nice to
> follow that model for x86 too. Currently, when I select CONFIG_M586, I
> get code for 686, etc. There is no way to simply say "Pentium and
> nothing else".
>
> Jeff
>
> --
> Jeff Garzik | "When I do this, my computer freezes."
> Building 1024 | -user
> MandrakeSoft | "Don't do that."
> | -level 1
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Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-11-07 20:52 Installing kernel 2.4 Anil kumar
2000-11-07 20:59 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-07 21:39 ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-07 22:28 ` Martin Josefsson
2000-11-07 22:32 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-07 22:51 ` kernel
2000-11-07 23:10 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-07 23:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-08 0:01 ` Jeff V. Merkey [this message]
2000-11-08 0:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-08 0:12 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-12-10 8:22 ` Mark W. McClelland
2000-11-09 13:40 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-08 2:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-08 7:35 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 0:54 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-08 3:31 ` Matthew Kirkwood
2000-11-08 0:11 ` David Lang
2000-11-07 23:39 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-07 23:51 ` Sven Koch
2000-11-07 23:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-08 0:18 ` David Relson
2000-11-08 0:23 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 0:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-08 0:52 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 0:49 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-08 0:47 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 0:57 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-08 0:54 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-07 22:52 ` J . A . Magallon
2000-11-07 22:54 ` J Sloan
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-11-07 22:49 Bruce_Holzrichter
2000-11-07 23:24 davej
2000-11-07 23:37 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-07 23:47 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-07 23:59 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 0:51 ` David Lang
2000-11-08 0:10 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 3:39 ` davej
2000-11-08 4:41 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 3:57 ` davej
2000-11-08 12:05 ` Horst von Brand
2000-11-08 15:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-11-08 16:51 ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-08 17:36 ` George Anzinger
2000-11-08 19:43 ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-08 20:32 ` George Anzinger
2000-11-08 22:01 ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-09 13:25 ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-09 18:24 ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-08 3:30 ` davej
2000-11-08 0:03 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-08 0:06 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 3:25 ` davej
2000-11-08 4:36 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 3:50 ` davej
2000-11-08 2:19 Marty Fouts
2000-11-08 2:25 Marty Fouts
2000-11-08 3:43 ` davej
2000-11-08 13:43 Jesse Pollard
2000-11-08 18:52 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 13:49 Bruce_Holzrichter
2000-11-08 15:10 ` davej
2000-11-08 19:16 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-08 19:19 David Feuer
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