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From: "Matt D. Robinson" <yakker@alacritech.com>
To: Christoph Rohland <cr@sap.com>
Cc: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@MIT.EDU>,
	richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com, Paul Jakma <paulj@itg.ie>,
	Michael Rothwell <rothwell@holly-springs.nc.us>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:36:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A0C402F.8F0BA261@alacritech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200011101624.LAA22004@tsx-prime.MIT.EDU> <qww7l6bpyuv.fsf@sap.com>

Christoph Rohland wrote:
> 
> Hi Theodore,
> 
> On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote:
> > P.S.  There are some such RAS features which I wouldn't be surprised
> > there being interest in having integrated into the kernel directly
> > post-2.4, with no need to put in "kernel hooks" for that particular
> > feature.  A good example of that would be kernel crash dumps.  For
> > all Linux houses which are doing support of customers remotely,
> > being able to get a crash dump so that developers can investigate a
> > problem remotely instead of having to fly a developer out to the
> > customer site is invaluable.  In fact, it might be considerd more
> > valuable than the kernel debugger....
> 
> *Yes* :-)

As soon as I finish writing raw write disk routines (not using kiobufs),
we can _maybe_ get LKCD accepted one of these days, especially now that we
don't have to build 'lcrash' against a kernel revision.  I'm in the
middle of putting together raw IDE functions now -- see LKCD mailing
list for details if you're curious.

IMHO, GKHI is a good thing -- it would be great to see this used for
ASSERT() cases (something you can turn on by 'insmod assert.o', which
would then trigger assert conditionals throughout the kernel ...) I
realize it would mean some bloat, and I doubt Linus would accept it,
but it's a nifty concept for enterprise Linux servers (especially
those that want quick answers to system crashes).

--Matt

> Greetings
>                 Christoph
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-11-10 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-11-10 11:41 [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI) richardj_moore
2000-11-10 16:24 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-10 16:37   ` Christoph Rohland
2000-11-10 18:36     ` Matt D. Robinson [this message]
2000-11-11  0:12       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-11  3:29         ` Matt D. Robinson
2000-11-11  4:57           ` Keith Owens
2000-11-11 17:58           ` tytso
2000-11-13 10:30             ` Daniel Phillips
2000-11-11 21:48         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2000-11-11 22:12           ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-10 16:54   ` Andi Kleen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-11-15 15:24 richardj_moore
2000-11-15 18:20 ` Matt D. Robinson
2000-11-15 15:22 richardj_moore
2000-11-14  1:34 richardj_moore
2000-11-13  5:52 richardj_moore
2000-11-12 23:27 richardj_moore
2000-11-13 10:38 ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-14  3:17   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-10 19:31 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 18:42 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 16:08 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 11:17 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 10:57 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 10:57 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 10:57 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 13:45 ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-10 13:51   ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-10 14:00     ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-10 14:37   ` David Lang
2000-11-09 14:02 Jesse Pollard
2000-11-09  7:43 richardj_moore
2000-11-09 11:24 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-11-09 12:25   ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 12:30     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2000-11-09 12:46       ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 13:35         ` Alan Cox
2000-11-09 13:43           ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 14:23             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-09 12:50     ` Paul Jakma
2000-11-09 12:53       ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 13:39         ` Paul Jakma
2000-11-09 14:06           ` Marco Colombo
2000-11-09 14:14           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-09 14:26             ` Alan Cox
2000-11-09 14:37               ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-09 20:24               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-09 13:31     ` Alan Cox
2000-11-08 20:31 richardj_moore
2000-11-08 21:35 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09  7:44   ` Christoph Rohland
2000-11-09  7:53     ` Larry McVoy
2000-11-09  8:08       ` Andre Hedrick
2000-11-09  8:43       ` Christoph Rohland
2000-11-09 12:20         ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 12:31           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2000-11-09 12:40           ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-09 13:02             ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 13:30               ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-09 13:39                 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 17:19                 ` Mike Coleman
2000-11-09 17:27                   ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-10 11:42                     ` Martin Dalecki
2000-11-09 13:40               ` Marco Colombo
2000-11-10  8:44           ` Christoph Rohland
2000-11-09 12:50       ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-09 16:03       ` Ingo Molnar
2000-11-10  8:42         ` Christoph Rohland
2000-11-09 14:28   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-10 15:07   ` Matti Aarnio
2000-11-10 15:24     ` Michael Rothwell

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