From: "Jeff V. Merkey" <jmerkey@timpanogas.org>
To: sendmail-bugs@sendmail.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: sendmail fails to deliver mail with attachments in /var/spool/mqueue
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:52:01 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A0C6E01.EFA10590@timpanogas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3A0C427A.E015E58A@timpanogas.org> <20001110095227.A15010@sendmail.com> <3A0C37FF.23D7B69@timpanogas.org> <20001110101138.A15087@sendmail.com> <3A0C3F30.F5EB076E@timpanogas.org> <20001110133431.A16169@sendmail.com> <3A0C6B7C.110902B4@timpanogas.org>
Hey guys,
We got to the bottom of the sendmail problem. The line:
-O QueueLA=20
and
-O RefuseLA=18
Need to be cranked up in sendmail.cf to something high since the
background VM on a very busy Linux box seems to exceed this which causes
large emails to get stuck in the /var/spool/mqueue directory for long
periods of time. Since vger is getting hammered with FTP all the time,
and is rarely idle. This also explains what Richard was seeing with VM
thrashing in a box with low memory.
The problem of dropping connections on 2.4 was related to the O RefuseLA
settings. The defaults in the RedHat, Suse, and OpenLinux RPMs are
clearly set too low for modern Linux kernels. You may want them cranked
up to 100 or something if you want sendmail to always work.
Jeff
"Jeff V. Merkey" wrote:
>
> Claus,
>
> This is a bug. emails should not get stuck in the mail queue because
> your load averaging routine doesn't work right. If this is so, then why
> do some emails (small ones) get through and big ones do not,
> irreguardless of delivery order. If it were a loading problem one would
> think emails would still get processed in the order they arrived, not
> some arbitrary "order from hell" which is what was happening. This is
> severely broken IMHO and you need to fix it.
>
> Jeff
>
> Claus Assmann wrote:
> >
> > All of these entries have an 'X':
> >
> > > Mail Queue (11 requests)
> > > --Q-ID-- --Size-- -Priority- ---Q-Time--- -----------Sender/Recipient-----------
> > > FAA15716X 31418 200564 Nov 9 05:01 <linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org>
> > > 7BIT
> > > <linux-archive@timpanogas.org>
> > > <jmerkey@timpanogas.org>
> > > FAA20318X 32693 201751 Nov 10 05:29 <linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org>
> > > 7BIT
> > > <linux-archive@timpanogas.org>
> > > <jmerkey@timpanogas.org>
> > > SAA01998X 34484 203865 Nov 6 18:20 <linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org>
> > > 7BIT
> > > <linux-archive@timpanogas.org>
> > > <jmerkey@timpanogas.org>
> > > QAA01341X 65091 204150 Nov 6 16:50 <linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org>
> > > 7BIT
> > > <mharris@opensourceadvocate.org>
> > > SAA13390X 41368 210478 Nov 8 18:03 <linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org>
> > > 7BIT
> > > <linux-archive@timpanogas.org>
> > > <jmerkey@timpanogas.org>
> > > LAA03425X 158115 218595 Nov 6 11:27 <jmerkey@timpanogas.org>
> > > <Mark.Coe@rrd.com>
> > > <jmerkey@timpanogas.com>
> > > QAA01343X 65091 234150 Nov 6 16:50 <linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org>
> > > 7BIT
> > > <linux-archive@timpanogas.org>
> > > <jmerkey@timpanogas.org>
> > > KAA21225X 205041 235799 Nov 10 10:26 <paperboy@g2news.com>
> > > 8BITMIME
> > > <jmerkey@timpanogas.com>
> > > FAA20229X 1457 272283+Nov 10 05:01 <mharris@opensourceadvocate.org>
> > > (Warning: could not send message for past 1 hour)
> > > <andre@linux-ide.org>
> > > QAA06681X 242511 272929 Nov 7 16:18 <jmerkey@timpanogas.org>
> > > 8BITMIME
> > > <andre@timpanogas.org>
> > > PAA12261X 576306 606701 Nov 8 15:06 <langus@timpanogas.com>
> > > <jmerkey@timpanogas.com>
> >
> > That is, the load on your machine is too high.
> > 3:27pm up 29 min, 2 users, load average: 10.00, 9.97, 8.50
> >
> > It seems as if this is broken, top shows 2 running processes
> > and 67 sleeping.
> >
> > If you run the queue with -O QueueLA=20 the entries are processed.
> > So you have to change your configuration to deal with the "high"
> > load, which I did right now by editing your .cf file.
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[not found] ` <20001110101138.A15087@sendmail.com>
[not found] ` <3A0C3F30.F5EB076E@timpanogas.org>
[not found] ` <20001110133431.A16169@sendmail.com>
[not found] ` <3A0C6B7C.110902B4@timpanogas.org>
2000-11-10 21:52 ` Jeff V. Merkey [this message]
2000-11-10 22:03 ` sendmail fails to deliver mail with attachments in /var/spool/mqueue Neil W Rickert
2000-11-10 22:05 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 22:18 ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-10 22:22 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 22:32 ` Claus Assmann
2000-11-10 22:31 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 22:23 ` Richard A Nelson
2000-11-11 13:45 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2000-11-10 22:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-10 22:29 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-11 1:44 ` Ralf Baechle
2000-11-11 1:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-11 3:16 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-11 11:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-11 18:03 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-11 1:35 ` Ralf Baechle
2000-11-11 1:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-11 1:47 ` Mohammad A. Haque
2000-11-10 23:25 ` Davide Libenzi
2000-11-11 12:23 ` (non)importance of loadaverages bert hubert
2000-11-10 22:52 ` sendmail fails to deliver mail with attachments in /var/spool/mqueue David Lang
2000-11-10 22:07 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 22:25 ` Claus Assmann
2000-11-10 23:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-11 7:57 ` Rogier Wolff
2000-11-11 8:23 ` [OFF] Load avarage (Re: sendmail fails to deliver mail with attachments in /var/spool/mqueue) Kari E. Hurtta
2000-11-11 0:28 ` Wild thangs, was: sendmail fails to deliver mail with attachments in /var/spool/mqueue David Ford
2000-11-11 0:27 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-11 0:46 ` David Ford
2000-11-11 3:25 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-11 2:41 ` David Ford
2000-11-11 2:45 ` Andrew Morton
2000-11-11 3:09 ` Andrew Morton
2000-11-11 1:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-13 16:34 ` [OT] " Bruce Guenter
2000-11-11 13:40 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2000-11-11 18:11 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-11 19:12 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2000-11-11 19:38 ` J Sloan
2000-11-13 6:22 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-12 4:44 ` Jesse Pollard
[not found] <200011102251.eAAMp1I232107@saturn.cs.uml.edu>
2000-11-10 22:51 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 18:45 [Fwd: sendmail fails to deliver mail with attachments in /var/spool/mqueue] Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 18:52 ` William F. Maton
2000-11-10 18:52 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 19:05 ` Horst von Brand
2000-11-10 19:04 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 19:30 ` Horst von Brand
2000-11-10 19:46 ` Tim Walberg
2000-11-11 11:33 ` Dominik Kubla
2000-11-11 13:35 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2000-11-10 23:41 ` Igmar Palsenberg
2000-11-10 22:34 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-11 0:45 ` Igmar Palsenberg
2000-11-10 23:40 ` Igmar Palsenberg
2000-11-10 19:08 ` Richard A Nelson
2000-11-10 19:10 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 19:15 ` William F. Maton
2000-11-10 23:37 ` Igmar Palsenberg
2000-11-10 19:34 ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-11-10 19:33 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-11 13:24 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2000-11-11 18:05 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 19:02 ` Richard A Nelson
2000-11-10 19:00 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 19:11 ` Richard A Nelson
2000-11-10 19:13 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 19:25 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 19:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-10 19:34 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 19:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-10 20:07 ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-11-10 20:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-10 20:27 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 20:36 ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-11-10 21:09 ` William F. Maton
2000-11-10 21:10 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 20:42 ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-11-10 20:47 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 20:59 ` Claus Assmann
2000-11-10 22:28 ` Davide Libenzi
2000-11-10 21:16 ` Claus Assmann
2000-11-10 22:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-11 0:14 ` Igmar Palsenberg
2000-11-10 23:12 ` Claus Assmann
2000-11-10 23:13 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-11 1:15 ` Steve VanDevender
2000-11-11 2:02 ` David Ford
2000-11-11 3:20 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-11 3:14 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-11 13:29 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2000-11-10 20:31 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-12 1:39 ` Horst von Brand
2000-11-13 2:58 ` David Ford
2000-11-11 13:20 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
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