From: "Jeff V. Merkey" <jmerkey@timpanogas.org>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sendmail-bugs@sendmail.org
Subject: Re: sendmail fails to deliver mail with attachments in /var/spool/mqueue
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:51:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A0C7BFA.7042E3CD@timpanogas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200011102251.eAAMp1I232107@saturn.cs.uml.edu>
[ ... named redacted by request ... ] wrote:
>
> > Well, here's what the sendmail folks **REAL** opinion of Linux is and
> > the way load average is calculated (senders name removed)
> >
> > [... sendmail person ...]
> >
> >> Ok, here's my blunt answer: Linux sucks. Why does it have a load
> >> average of 10 if there are two processes running? Let's check the
> >> man page:
> >>
> >> and the three load averages for the system. The load
> >> averages are the average number of process ready to
> >> run during the last 1, 5 and 15 minutes. This line
> >> is just like the output of uptime(1).
> >>
> >> So: Linux load average on these systems is broken.
>
> If that is _our_ man page, it is broken. (well, old) Otherwise,
> this is just a case of not mindlessly obeying the BSD "standard".
>
> Linux 2.4.xx includes some blocked processes in the load average
> calculation. This is because the BSD load average calculation
> could give a load of 0.0 when the system is severely overloaded
> by IO. I think only uninterruptable processes got added in.
>
> Maybe this isn't the best solution... there could have been
> a second load average for IO maybe.
>
> Feel free to forward this to the sendmail people, to the BSD people
> in case they'd like to "standardize" the new calculation, or to the
> linux-kernel mailing list for discussion -- w/o my name please.
Forwarded at the request of a tier 1 Linux person after redacting their
name.
Jeff
-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
next parent reply other threads:[~2000-11-10 22:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <200011102251.eAAMp1I232107@saturn.cs.uml.edu>
2000-11-10 22:51 ` Jeff V. Merkey [this message]
[not found] <3A0C427A.E015E58A@timpanogas.org>
[not found] ` <20001110095227.A15010@sendmail.com>
[not found] ` <3A0C37FF.23D7B69@timpanogas.org>
[not found] ` <20001110101138.A15087@sendmail.com>
[not found] ` <3A0C3F30.F5EB076E@timpanogas.org>
[not found] ` <20001110133431.A16169@sendmail.com>
[not found] ` <3A0C6B7C.110902B4@timpanogas.org>
2000-11-10 21:52 ` sendmail fails to deliver mail with attachments in /var/spool/mqueue Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 22:03 ` Neil W Rickert
2000-11-10 22:05 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 22:18 ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-10 22:22 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 22:32 ` Claus Assmann
2000-11-10 22:31 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 22:23 ` Richard A Nelson
2000-11-11 13:45 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2000-11-10 22:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-10 22:29 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-11 1:44 ` Ralf Baechle
2000-11-11 1:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-11 3:16 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-11 11:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-11 18:03 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-11 1:35 ` Ralf Baechle
2000-11-11 1:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-11 1:47 ` Mohammad A. Haque
2000-11-10 23:25 ` Davide Libenzi
2000-11-10 22:52 ` David Lang
2000-11-10 22:07 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-10 22:25 ` Claus Assmann
2000-11-10 23:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-11 7:57 ` Rogier Wolff
2000-11-11 13:40 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2000-11-11 18:11 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-11 19:12 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2000-11-11 19:38 ` J Sloan
2000-11-13 6:22 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-11-12 4:44 ` Jesse Pollard
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=3A0C7BFA.7042E3CD@timpanogas.org \
--to=jmerkey@timpanogas.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=sendmail-bugs@sendmail.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox