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From: Brian Gerst <bgerst@didntduck.org>
To: root@chaos.analogic.com
Cc: richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@ds2.pg.gda.pl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why is double_fault serviced by a trap gate?
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 17:36:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A301106.D58DCB2E@didntduck.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.1001207163133.3136A-100000@chaos.analogic.com>

"Richard B. Johnson" wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 7 Dec 2000 richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Which surely we can on today's x86 systems. Even back in the days of OS/2
> > 2.0 running on a 386 with 4Mb RAM we used a taskgate for both NMI and
> > Double Fault. You need only a minimal stack - 1K, sufficient to save state
> > and restore ESP to a known point before switching back to the main TSS to
> > allow normal exception handling to occur.
> >
> > There no architectural restriction that some folks have hinted at - as long
> > as the DPL for the task gates is 3.
> >
> [SNIPPED...]
> 
> Please refer to page 6-16, Inter486 Microprocessor Family Programmer's
> Reference Manual.
> 
> The specifc text is: "The TSS does not have a stack pointer for a
> privilege level 3 stack, because the procedure cannot be called by a less
> privileged procedure. The stack for privilege level 3 is preserved by the
> contents of SS and EIP registers which have been saved on the stack
> of the privilege level called from level 3".
> 
> What this means is that a stack-fault in level 3 will kill you no
> matter how cute you try to be. And, putting a task gate as call
> procedure entry from a trap or fault is just trying to be cute.
> It's extra code that will result in the same processor reset.

No, because the CPL of the task gate would be 0, which means the stack
will be set to tss->esp0.  The DPL of 3 means that the descriptor can be
accessed from CPL3.  The text you mention generally means that the only
way to get back to CPL3 is with iret (via the saved %cs:%eip and
%ss:%esp pushed on the CPL0/1/2 stack).

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				Brian Gerst
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-12-07 23:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-07 21:09 Why is double_fault serviced by a trap gate? richardj_moore
2000-12-07 21:44 ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-12-07 22:36   ` Brian Gerst [this message]
2000-12-08  1:36     ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-12-08 11:44       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2000-12-07 22:47 ` Keith Owens
2000-12-08 11:30 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-12-09 23:46 richardj_moore
2000-12-08 20:48 richardj_moore
2000-12-08 16:34 richardj_moore
2000-12-08 16:52 ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-12-08 13:18 richardj_moore
2000-12-08  8:37 richardj_moore
2000-12-08 12:58 ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-12-08 22:34   ` Keith Owens
2000-12-08 20:31 ` Mikulas Patocka
2000-12-07 23:08 richardj_moore
2000-12-07 23:03 richardj_moore
2000-12-07 23:01 Petr Vandrovec
2000-12-07 20:20 Petr Vandrovec
2000-12-07 19:38 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2000-12-07 18:13 Petr Vandrovec
2000-12-07 18:04 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2000-12-07 16:04 richardj_moore
2000-12-07 16:13 ` Andi Kleen
2000-12-07 16:31   ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-12-07 16:55   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2000-12-07 18:05     ` Andi Kleen
2000-12-07 18:11       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2000-12-07 18:29         ` Andi Kleen
2000-12-07 18:47           ` Maciej W. Rozycki

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