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From: Dietmar Kling <dietmar.kling@sam-net.de>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: Martin Dalecki <dalecki@evision-ventures.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:50:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A3513F2.DF0F5289@sam-net.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012111156490.7433-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>

Alexander Viro wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Martin Dalecki wrote:
> 
> > Please don't put KDE into the same bunch as gnome or
> > windows. KDE is in fact *well designed*! In esp. 2.0
> 
> <raised brows> 'Tis funny, you know, because ISTR that the bloody thing
> got the same problems with the program sizes, API bloat and lack of
> orthogonality. Last time I've looked at their codebase was ~6 months
> ago and it was rather vomit-inducing.
> 
> The fact that there is a holy war doesn't mean that one of the sides
> doesn't suck - usually both do...

I do not understand this 
"i saw it - yuck! - and now i want to kill it "
point of view.
As I tried to point out. Things evolve. And
the evolution has the right do things wrong.
Next evolution step will do it probably better.

Al same as kernel development.  With your attitude
i'd have dropped linux 0.99 immediatly.
Remember the code in certain parts?

So what is your point?
I accept only  shiny little masterpieces of software?
Thats not the way it works IMHO.

Best Regards
Dietmar
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-12-11 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-08 23:10 ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit Chris Lattner
2000-12-09  4:45 ` Ben Ford
2000-12-09  5:00   ` Mohammad A. Haque
2000-12-09  5:39     ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-09 10:34       ` Jamie Lokier
2000-12-14  0:21         ` Chris Lattner
2000-12-14  1:11           ` Alan Cox
2000-12-14  1:48             ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-14  2:53               ` Michael Rothwell
2000-12-14  3:12               ` Chris Lattner
2000-12-14  3:36                 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-12-14 11:46                 ` Michael Livshin
2000-12-14 17:30                   ` Elliot Lee
2000-12-14  4:23               ` Chip Salzenberg
2000-12-14  4:28                 ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-14  4:42                   ` Chip Salzenberg
2000-12-14  4:47                     ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-14  4:52                       ` Chip Salzenberg
2000-12-14  5:15                         ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-14  9:23                           ` Oystein Viggen
2000-12-14  5:22                         ` David Feuer
2000-12-14  8:04                 ` josef höök
2000-12-14  8:09                   ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-14 13:53                     ` josef höök
2000-12-14  2:42             ` [Korbit-cvs] " Chris Lattner
2000-12-14  3:08               ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-14  3:19                 ` Chris Lattner
2000-12-14  3:42                   ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-14  3:52                     ` Chris Lattner
2000-12-14  4:24                       ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-14  4:41                         ` CORBA vs 9P Chris Lattner
2000-12-14  4:57                           ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-14  5:04                             ` Chris Lattner
2000-12-14 10:02               ` [Korbit-cvs] Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit Alan Cox
2000-12-14 10:10                 ` Larry McVoy
2000-12-14 17:38                   ` Chris Lattner
2000-12-14 17:33                 ` Chris Lattner
2000-12-14  2:06           ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-14  2:53             ` Chris Lattner
2000-12-14  3:29               ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-14  3:42                 ` Chris Lattner
2000-12-14  4:05                   ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-14  4:14                     ` Chris Lattner
2000-12-14  4:45                       ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-14  5:00                         ` Chris Lattner
2000-12-14  5:56                           ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-14  6:23                             ` [Korbit-cvs] " Chris Lattner
2000-12-14  7:23                               ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-14 18:03                                 ` Chris Lattner
2000-12-14 19:11                                   ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-14 22:10                                     ` [Korbit-cvs] Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit (and ioctl must die!) Mike Coleman
2000-12-14  9:23                   ` ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit josef höök
2000-12-14  9:30                     ` Larry McVoy
2000-12-14 20:02               ` Pavel Machek
2000-12-15 10:25                 ` josef höök
2000-12-15 15:54                 ` Chris Lattner
2000-12-15 20:10                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2000-12-15 20:26                   ` Pavel Machek
2000-12-15 20:37                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2000-12-15 22:19                   ` Alan Cox
2000-12-16  0:19                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2000-12-18 20:29                       ` Rik van Riel
2000-12-18 20:42                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-18 20:48                           ` Rik van Riel
2000-12-18 21:57                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2000-12-19  0:27                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-19  8:42                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2000-12-19  9:30                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-18 21:46                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2000-12-18 22:02                           ` Alan Cox
2000-12-18 22:13                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2000-12-18  8:27                   ` David Ford
2000-12-14 16:34             ` Jamie Lokier
2000-12-14 16:45           ` Rik van Riel
2000-12-14 16:49             ` Chris Lattner
2000-12-14 17:23             ` [Korbit-cvs] " Fredrik Vraalsen
2000-12-14 17:34               ` Jamie Lokier
2000-12-17 23:42               ` Pavel Machek
2000-12-18 20:39                 ` Chris Lattner
2000-12-09 11:59       ` Alan Cox
2000-12-09 12:29         ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-09 15:50           ` Dietmar Kling
2000-12-09 20:59             ` Alan Cox
2000-12-10  2:18               ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-10  2:58                 ` Dietmar Kling
2000-12-10  3:22                   ` David Ford
2000-12-11 13:38                   ` Martin Dalecki
2000-12-11 13:47                     ` J . A . Magallon
2000-12-11 17:48                       ` ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit ( getting off topic) Matthew D. Pitts
2000-12-11 17:18                     ` ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit Alexander Viro
2000-12-11 17:50                       ` Dietmar Kling [this message]
2000-12-11 18:53                         ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-11 19:00                           ` Dietmar Kling
2000-12-11 20:21                             ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-09 14:16       ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-12 23:26     ` Chris Lattner
2000-12-13  9:42       ` David Woodhouse
2000-12-14 19:42       ` Pavel Machek
2000-12-09  5:51   ` David Ford
2000-12-10 22:33   ` Pavel Machek
2000-12-11 22:42   ` Michael Rothwell
2000-12-12 15:05     ` josef höök
2000-12-12 15:18       ` Michael Rothwell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-12-09  0:49 Bernd Eckenfels
2000-12-10  7:56 Bernd Eckenfels
2000-12-14 17:24 Chris Lattner

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