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From: Andrew Morton <andrewm@uow.edu.au>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.19pre2
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:38:43 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A41DDB3.7E38AC7@uow.edu.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E147MkJ-00036t-00@the-village.bc.nu>, <E147MkJ-00036t-00@the-village.bc.nu>; <20001220142858.A7381@athlon.random> <3A40C8CB.D063E337@uow.edu.au>, <3A40C8CB.D063E337@uow.edu.au>; from andrewm@uow.edu.au on Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 01:57:15AM +1100 <20001220162456.G7381@athlon.random>

Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> 
> The fact you could mix non-exclusive and exlusive wakeups in the same waitqueue
> was a feature not a misfeature. Then of course you cannot register in two
> waitqueues one with wake-one and one with wake-all but who does that anyways?
> Definitely not an issue for 2.2.x.

Definitely?  Let's think about that.

> I think the real reason for spearating the two things as davem proposed is
> because otherwise we cannot register for a LIFO wake-one in O(1) as we needed
> for accept.

Yes.  In other words, if we try to do O(1) LIFO, we can cause lost wakeups.

> Other thing about your patch, adding TASK_EXCLUSIVE to
> wake_up/wake_up_interruptible is useless.

This enables wake_up_all().



Anyway, this is all just noise.

The key question is: which of the following do we want?

a) A simple, specific accept()-accelerator, and 2.2 remains without
   an exclusive wq API or

b) A general purpose exclusive wq mechanism which does not correctly
   support waiting on two queues simultaneuously where one is
   exclusive or

c) A general purpose exclusive wq mechanism which _does_ support it.

Each choice has merit!  You seem to want b).  davem wants c).

And given that 2.2 has maybe 2-4 years life left in it, I'd
agree with David.  Let's do it once and do it right while the issue
is fresh in our minds.

Yes?

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-12-21 11:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-16 19:11 Linux 2.2.19pre2 Alan Cox
2000-12-17 10:56 ` Petri Kaukasoina
2000-12-17 15:38   ` Kurt Garloff
2000-12-20 10:32     ` Petri Kaukasoina
2000-12-20 10:44       ` Kurt Garloff
2000-12-20 13:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-20 14:57   ` Andrew Morton
2000-12-20 15:24     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-20 17:48       ` Rik van Riel
2000-12-20 18:09         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-21 10:38       ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2000-12-21 15:19         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-21 17:07           ` Rik van Riel
2000-12-21 17:44             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-21 17:55               ` Rik van Riel
2000-12-22  7:33           ` Andrew Morton
2000-12-22 13:19             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-23  6:56               ` Andrew Morton
2000-12-23 18:11                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-24  0:23                   ` Andrew Morton
2000-12-24  0:53                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-24  2:28                       ` Andrew Morton
2000-12-24  4:21                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-24  5:17                           ` Andrew Morton
2000-12-24 14:43                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-24 15:40                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-29 17:09                       ` wake-one-3 bug (affected 2.2.19pre3aa[123]) Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-21 20:23   ` Linux 2.2.19pre2 Andrea Arcangeli

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