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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@innominate.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Generic deferred file writing
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 20:10:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A4F84B2.D691EC50@innominate.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3A4F7B45.C8313E8A@innominate.de> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012311035020.4239-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
>  I do not believe that "get_block()" is as big of a problem as people make
>  it out to be.

I didn't mention get_block - disk accesses obviously far outweigh
filesystem cpu/cache usage in overall impact.  The question is, what
happens to disk access patterns when we do the deferred allocation.

> One form of deferred writes I _do_ like is the mount-time-option form.
> Because that one doesn't add complexity. Kind of like the "noatime" mount
> option - it can be worth it under some circumstances, and sometimes it's
> acceptable to not get 100% unix semantics - at which point deferred writes
> have none of the disadvantages of trying to be clever.

And the added attraction of requiring almost no effort.
	
--
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-12-31 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-30  0:25 test13-pre6 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-30  0:49 ` test13-pre6 Alexander Viro
2000-12-30  1:03   ` test13-pre6 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-30 18:09     ` test13-pre6 Alexander Viro
2000-12-30  2:25 ` test13-pre6 Daniel Phillips
2000-12-30  3:16   ` test13-pre6 Linus Torvalds
2000-12-30 18:58     ` [RFC] Generic deferred file writing Daniel Phillips
2000-12-30 20:05       ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-30 20:06       ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-30 20:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-30 21:10           ` Andreas Dilger
2000-12-30 21:46           ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-30 23:12             ` Daniel Phillips
2000-12-30 22:00           ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-12-30 22:44             ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-31  0:26               ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-12-31  1:02             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-31  1:13               ` Chris Wedgwood
2000-12-31  1:50               ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-31  2:34                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-31  2:09               ` Roman Zippel
2000-12-31  2:28                 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-31 12:58                   ` Roman Zippel
2001-04-21 20:06                     ` Races in affs_unlink(), affs_rmdir() and affs_rename() Alexander Viro
2001-04-21 22:16                       ` Roman Zippel
2001-04-22  5:53                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-22 12:57                           ` Roman Zippel
2001-04-22 13:15                             ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-31 14:38                   ` [RFC] Generic deferred file writing Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-31 16:33                     ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-31 16:50                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-12-31 16:51                       ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-31 17:12                         ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-31 18:30                   ` Daniel Phillips
2000-12-31 18:44                     ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-31 19:10                       ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2000-12-31 19:31                         ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-31 21:03                       ` Roman Zippel
2000-12-31 21:32                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-02 18:27                   ` Chris Mason
2000-12-30  3:08 ` test13-pre6 (Fork Bug with Athlons? Temporary Fix) Byron Stanoszek
2000-12-30  3:36   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-30  5:55     ` Andi Kleen
2000-12-30  5:13   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-12-30  8:13   ` Graham Murray
2000-12-30  4:21 ` test13-pre6 Dan Aloni
2001-01-04 20:23 ` test13-pre6 Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-04 22:15   ` test13-pre6 stewart
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012311726230.1671-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-01-01  2:50 ` [RFC] Generic deferred file writing Roman Zippel
2001-01-01  3:47   ` Alexander Viro
2001-01-01 12:44     ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-01 15:16       ` Alexander Viro
2001-01-02  3:00         ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-02  5:00           ` Alexander Viro
2001-01-02 16:53             ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-01 20:00     ` Daniel Phillips

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