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* 2.4.0-release (and a few priors) stalls
@ 2001-01-04  9:58 David Ford
  2001-01-04 14:09 ` Rik van Riel
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: David Ford @ 2001-01-04  9:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Recently, about test 12 I believe, I started experiencing stalls.
I believe it has to do with VM pressure but I'm not sure.

What happens:  5-60 second instant dead stall, nothing at all happens.
No sound/key/disk/anything activity, screen updates stop in the middle
of an update.  Until recently I was mistaking this as a lockup and
rebooting (thank you reiserfs).  Now I just wait it out.  I'm away for
holiday/vacation so I can't hookup kbd. :(

Environment: normally swap is full -but- buffers can have any amount of
free listed, sometimes well over 100 megs.

After the stall resumes, everything starts right up and sings along
fine.  There aren't any kernel messages indicating something was funny.

This is different from running out of normal pages, the system starts to
thrash and slows considerably, almost unusable, but over a period of
10-20 seconds.  If I add swap quickly, X won't get killed.
(unfortunately, X seems to get killed 9/10 times because netscape took
too long to die so the kernel kept killing).

-d


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* Re: 2.4.0-release (and a few priors) stalls
  2001-01-04  9:58 2.4.0-release (and a few priors) stalls David Ford
@ 2001-01-04 14:09 ` Rik van Riel
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Rik van Riel @ 2001-01-04 14:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Ford; +Cc: LKML

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, David Ford wrote:

> Recently, about test 12 I believe, I started experiencing stalls.
> I believe it has to do with VM pressure but I'm not sure.
> 
> (thank you reiserfs).

Probably an interaction between the fact that the
VM tries to write out pages but reiserfs blocking
this because of write ordering constraints...

It should become better once reiserfs has a smart
->writepage() function that will push the "right"
page to disk and allows the system to continue
faster.

The fact that swap is full may also have something
to do with it, though on my tests here the system
continued to run fine with swap space filled up.

regards,

Rik
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