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From: Stephen Clark <sclark46@gte.net>
To: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 08:06:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A62F5BD.24C8C687@gte.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010112212427.A2829@suse.cz> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101121604080.8097-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> <20010113150046.E1155@suse.cz>

This sucks! I have had several systems with VIA chipsets and have never had any
problems. Currently I am running a SOYO K6-2 system with UDMA 33 and a SOYO K-7
system with both UDMA-33 and UDMA-66 with not problems. How do we know that
there is not some related hardware problem, (cable, power supply, etc ) with the
systems that reported problems? What percentage of people are running OK VS
those that are not?

Now everybody with a VIA chipset is going to be punished!

My $.02
Steve

Vojtech Pavlik wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 04:09:22PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Vojtech Pavlik wrote:
> > >
> > > However - Alan's IDE patch for 2.2 kills autodma on ALL VIA chipsets.
> > > That's because all VIA chipsets starting from vt82c586 to vt82c686b
> > > (UDMA100), share the same PCI ID.
> > >
> > > Would you prefer to filter just vt82c586 and vt82c586a as the comment in
> > > Alan's code says or simply unconditionally kill autodma on all of VIA
> > > chipsets, as Alan's code does?
> >
> > Right now, for 2.4.1, I'd rather have the patch to just do the same as
> > 2.2.x. We can figure it out better when we get a better idea of exactly
> > what the bug is, and whether there is some other work-around, and whether
> > it is 100% certain that it is just those two controllers (maybe the other
> > ones are buggy too, but the 2.2.x tests basically cured their symptoms too
> > and peopl ehaven't reported them because they are "fixed").
> >
> >               Linus
>
> Ok, here goes the patch.
>
> Note that with this patch, all VIA users will get IDE transferrates
> about 3 MB/sec as opposed to about 20 MB/sec without it (and with
> UDMA66).
>
> This patch disables automatic DMA on all VIA chipsets, including the
> ancient 82c561 for 486's, and up to the 686a UDMA66 chipset.
>
> Also note that enabling the DMA later with hdparm -X66 -d1 or similar
> command is not safe, and usually works by pure luck on VIA chipsets.
> This however, would need some non-minor changes to the generic code to
> fix.
>
> But perhaps it's still worth ...
>
> --
> Vojtech Pavlik
> SuSE Labs
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>    via-no-autodma.diffName: via-no-autodma.diff
>                       Type: Plain Text (text/plain)

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-01-15 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-12  8:44 ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andre Hedrick
2001-01-12  8:55 ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andre Hedrick
2001-01-12 17:51   ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-12 18:13     ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Alan Cox
2001-01-12 18:37       ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-12 21:26       ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Adrian Bunk
2001-01-12 18:17     ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andre Hedrick
2001-01-12 18:55       ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-12 19:46         ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-12 19:57           ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-12 20:24             ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-12 23:47               ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Alan Cox
2001-01-13 13:45                 ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-13 17:09                   ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Bryan O'Sullivan
2001-01-13 17:19                     ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-13  0:09               ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-13  0:25                 ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Alan Cox
2001-01-12 16:43                   ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch John Heil
2001-01-13  0:52                     ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-12 17:09                       ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch John Heil
2001-01-13  1:16                         ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-15 10:15                         ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Matthias Andree
2001-01-13  1:12                       ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andre Hedrick
2001-01-13  1:18                         ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-13  1:24                           ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andre Hedrick
2001-01-13  1:31                             ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-13  1:48                               ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andre Hedrick
2001-01-13  1:51                               ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andre Hedrick
2001-01-13 14:02                       ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-13 14:00                 ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-13 19:46                   ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Alan Cox
2001-01-13 20:00                     ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andre Hedrick
2001-01-14  3:41                   ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch TimO
2001-01-14  8:55                     ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-15 13:06                   ` Stephen Clark [this message]
     [not found]               ` <Pine.LNX.4.30.0101130559060.19743-100000@wr5z.localdomain>
2001-01-13 14:22                 ` VIA IDE corruption - anyone experiencing it with 2.4.0? Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-12 23:43           ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Alan Cox
2001-01-13  2:43             ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch davej
2001-01-13 13:42               ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-13  3:03             ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Tkil
2001-01-13 13:44               ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-13 13:35             ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-14 19:38             ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Jamie Lokier
2001-01-14 22:39               ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-15  0:06                 ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Albert Cranford
2001-01-15 23:47                   ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2001-01-15  1:13                 ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Jamie Lokier
2001-01-13 22:06           ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch junio
2001-01-13  7:12         ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andre Hedrick
2001-01-13 16:42         ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch David Woodhouse
2001-01-13 17:04           ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-14 17:22             ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch David Woodhouse
2001-01-13 18:54           ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Russell King
2001-01-12  8:56 ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Craig Schlenter
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-13 23:40 ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
2001-01-14  8:46 ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-14  3:53 ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Tony Parsons
2001-01-14  8:31 ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch David D.W. Downey
2001-01-14  9:03   ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch David D.W. Downey
2001-01-15 10:29   ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Paul Flinders

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