From: Rick Jones <raj@cup.hp.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Is sendfile all that sexy? (fwd)]]
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:20:16 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A6733E0.6286A388@cup.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101171259470.10031-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> <3A661A00.E3344A18@cup.hp.com> <20010118103414.A18205@gruyere.muc.suse.de>
Andi Kleen wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 02:17:36PM -0800, Rick Jones wrote:
> > How does CORKing interact with ACK generation? In particular how it
> > might interact with (or rather possibly induce) standalone ACKs?
>
> It doesn't change the ACK generation. If your cork'ed packets gets sent
> before the delayed ack triggers it is piggy backed, if not it is send
> individually. When the delayed ack triggers depends; Linux has dynamic
> delack based on the rtt and also a special quickack mode to speed up slow
> start.
So if I understand all this correctly...
The difference in ACK generation would be that with nagle it is a race
between the standalone ack heuristic and the first byte of response
data, with cork, the race is between the standalone ack heuristic and
the last byte of response data and an uncork call, or the MSSth byte
whichever comes first.
If the response bytes are dribbling slowly into the socket, where slowly
is less than the bandwidth delay product of the connection, cork can
result in quite fewer packets than nagle would. It would perhaps though
have one more standalone ACK than nagle
If the response bytes are dribbling quickly into the socket, where
quickly is greater than the bandwidth delay product of the connection,
cork will produce one less packet than nagle.
If the response bytes go into the socket together, cork and nagle will
produce the same number of packets.
rick jones
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2001-01-17 19:27 ` [Fwd: [Fwd: Is sendfile all that sexy? (fwd)]] Linus Torvalds
2001-01-17 20:03 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-17 20:38 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-17 20:57 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-18 13:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 14:57 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-18 18:24 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-19 2:46 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-19 3:03 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-19 19:07 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-19 20:03 ` kuznet
2001-01-19 21:20 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-20 18:03 ` kuznet
2001-01-22 18:44 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-20 14:56 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-01-23 7:20 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-20 23:09 ` Lincoln Dale
2001-01-20 23:27 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-21 0:02 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-18 12:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-25 17:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-17 21:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-17 22:17 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-17 22:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-17 22:44 ` Jonathan Walther
2001-01-18 13:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 16:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 17:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 17:49 ` Zach Brown
2001-01-19 3:16 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-19 3:56 ` David Ford
2001-01-18 18:29 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-18 18:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 19:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 19:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 19:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 20:11 ` kuznet
2001-01-18 20:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 21:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 20:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 20:37 ` kuznet
2001-01-18 21:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-19 0:27 ` Olivier Galibert
2001-01-19 0:59 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-19 17:52 ` kuznet
2001-01-19 20:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 20:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 21:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 21:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 22:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 22:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-19 15:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-19 18:18 ` kuznet
2001-01-19 21:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 17:28 ` kuznet
2001-01-20 18:14 ` Abramo Bagnara
2001-01-20 18:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 19:05 ` kuznet
2001-01-20 19:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 19:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-20 20:22 ` kuznet
2001-01-20 21:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 20:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-21 18:37 ` kuznet
2001-01-20 19:39 ` kuznet
2001-01-20 21:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 21:31 ` Guus Sliepen
2001-01-18 22:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 19:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 19:59 ` kuznet
2001-01-18 20:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-19 3:25 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-19 3:35 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-18 9:34 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-18 18:20 ` Rick Jones [this message]
2001-01-18 19:45 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-18 20:30 ` kuznet
2001-01-18 20:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 22:49 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-18 13:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 16:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 17:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-17 21:51 Dan Kegel
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