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From: Andrew Clausen <clausen@conectiva.com.br>
To: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, bug-parted@gnu.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Partition IDs in the New World TM
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:28:27 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A6CC21B.D4ABE21C@conectiva.com.br> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200101222242.WAA00893@raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk>

Russell King wrote:
> 
> Andrew Clausen writes:
> > Why is this necessary?  Can't the RAID drivers probe the device for
> > signatures, the same way file systems do?
> 
> One possible problem I can see here is to do with removal of RAID.  Think
> of a RAID-1 array (2 or more disks containing identical data).  The
> partition can be validly identified as an ext2 filesystem.  But wait, it
> has a RAID superblock at the end.
> 
> How do we know if this superblock is current or not?  After all, a mke2fs
> on the device won't remove it.  Yes, you could fill the partition with
> zeros and start again, or you could just change the partition ID.

Yeah, this is a big problem.

Parted solves it, by defining a clobber() operation for each file system
type (which can/should be extended to RAID, if/when we get around to
supporting it properly).  clobber() removes all signatures.

So, I guess the short answer is: mke2fs should remove the RAID super.
For those of you who don't like all-in-one libraries like libparted -
not mentioning any Christo^Wnames - you could probably have
clobber.ext2,
etc.

However, you would want to have a comprehensive set of clobber.*.
Fortunately, clobber.X is going to be very small, so this should be
a problem.

So, the alternative is to define a RAID partition "data" type.  (And
forget about IDs for file systems)

Andrew Clausen
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-22 23:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-22 16:17 Partition IDs in the New World TM Andrew Clausen
2001-01-22 16:32 ` Brian Gerst
2001-01-22 16:47   ` Andrew Clausen
2001-01-22 21:39     ` Russell King
2001-01-22 22:30       ` Andrew Clausen
2001-01-22 22:42         ` Russell King
2001-01-22 23:28           ` Andrew Clausen [this message]
2001-01-22 23:35         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-23  4:47           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-23  6:23             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-23 19:26             ` Matt D. Robinson
2001-01-24  8:18               ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-22 22:16 ` Glenn McGrath
2001-01-22 23:35   ` Jason Venner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-22 22:42 Andries.Brouwer
2001-01-22 17:35 ` Mark I Manning IV
2001-01-22 22:55 Andries.Brouwer
2001-01-23 15:46 Andries.Brouwer
     [not found] <OF03708398.46274A87-ON872569DD.005CA0DE@LocalDomain>
2001-01-23 17:08 ` Andrew Clausen
     [not found] <OF5F9BE7DB.C1ADFB0E-ON872569DD.006485CC@LocalDomain>
2001-01-23 18:35 ` Andrew Clausen
2001-01-23 22:01   ` Glenn McGrath
2001-01-24 13:40     ` Andrew Clausen
2001-01-24 10:28 Andries.Brouwer

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