From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@transmeta.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
Cc: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>,
James Sutherland <jas88@cam.ac.uk>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
Matti Aarnio <matti.aarnio@zmailer.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:28:37 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A71A5B5.7AE35C97@transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010126124426.O2360@marowsky-bree.de> <Pine.SOL.4.21.0101261344120.11126-100000@red.csi.cam.ac.uk> <20010126154447.L3849@marowsky-bree.de> <20010126160342.B7096@pcep-jamie.cern.ch>
Jamie Lokier wrote:
>
> Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:
> > First, you are ignoring a TCP_RST, which means "stop trying".
>
> That's why we stop when we receive the second TCP RST.
> It's just like dropping due to congestion, which is of course perfectly
> safe in moderation.
>
No, you can't issue multiple connects in response to a single socket
option. One can argue that it would have been OK for these firewalls to
drop ECN packets, but replying with RST is just too broken to live.
-hpa
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-01-26 16:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-01-25 5:43 hotmail not dealing with ECN Jeremy Hansen
2001-01-25 7:37 ` Juri Haberland
2001-01-25 9:06 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 1:12 ` Lincoln Dale
2001-01-25 23:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-26 1:30 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 1:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-26 1:43 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 1:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-26 2:10 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 2:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-26 8:54 ` Helge Hafting
2001-01-26 18:04 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-27 7:11 ` Rusty Russell
2001-01-31 10:56 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-27 4:10 ` David Wagner
2001-01-27 4:59 ` Brian May
2001-01-27 18:18 ` Frank v Waveren
2001-01-27 19:20 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-27 19:22 ` Frank v Waveren
2001-01-27 19:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-27 20:14 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-27 22:18 ` David Schwartz
2001-01-27 23:09 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-28 0:11 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-28 1:10 ` Dominik Kubla
2001-01-28 4:35 ` [OT] " Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-28 12:57 ` Dominik Kubla
2001-01-28 15:45 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-01-28 19:30 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-28 22:16 ` Dominik Kubla
2001-01-28 8:48 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-28 0:06 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-28 3:27 ` David Schwartz
2001-01-28 0:58 ` David Lang
2001-01-26 2:24 ` Johannes Erdfelt
2001-01-26 3:03 ` Brian May
2001-01-26 5:06 ` Jeremy M. Dolan
2001-01-26 14:04 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-27 10:00 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-01-31 10:46 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-26 10:37 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-26 11:32 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 11:40 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-26 11:44 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2001-01-26 13:44 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-26 14:44 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2001-01-26 15:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 15:14 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 15:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 17:05 ` ECN Simon Kirby
2001-01-26 18:12 ` ECN Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-26 15:16 ` hotmail not dealing with ECN Dominik Kubla
2001-01-26 15:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 22:26 ` Dominik Kubla
2001-01-26 22:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-26 15:35 ` Marian Jancar
2001-01-26 16:28 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2001-01-28 1:59 ` Dax Kelson
2001-01-28 16:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 23:47 ` ECN -? Anything _I_ need to do to allow it? List User
2001-01-27 9:58 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-26 11:50 ` hotmail not dealing with ECN David S. Miller
2001-01-26 13:52 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-26 13:54 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 14:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 15:08 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-26 15:13 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2001-01-26 15:29 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-26 15:55 ` Chris Ricker
2001-01-26 18:37 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-01-26 19:17 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-26 19:55 ` Jeremy M. Dolan
2001-01-26 15:34 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 17:37 ` Drago Goricanec
2001-01-26 14:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 18:19 ` Olaf Titz
2001-01-26 14:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 14:39 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 14:46 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2001-01-26 14:50 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 14:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-27 0:18 ` Thunder from the hill
2001-01-27 0:15 ` Thunder from the hill
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-25 17:26 Bernd Eckenfels
2001-01-26 7:53 Bernd Eckenfels
2001-01-26 16:04 Randal, Phil
2001-01-26 16:37 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2001-01-26 17:18 ` Tony Hoyle
2001-01-26 18:42 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-01-31 16:45 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-26 17:28 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-01-26 21:21 ` David Ford
2001-01-29 9:42 ` Helge Hafting
2001-01-26 17:14 James Sutherland
2001-01-26 23:25 ` Daniel Chemko
2001-01-26 19:43 ` Chris Meadors
2001-01-29 14:57 ` Thunder from the hill
2001-01-26 17:53 Adam J. Richter
2001-01-26 17:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-26 18:15 ` Alan Shutko
2001-01-26 18:32 ` Graham Murray
[not found] <980523239.30846@whiskey.enposte.net>
2001-01-26 21:52 ` Stuart Lynne
2001-01-26 21:59 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-01-27 9:48 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-27 18:55 Bernd Eckenfels
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