From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:29:42 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:29:34 -0500 Received: from neon-gw.transmeta.com ([209.10.217.66]:20751 "EHLO neon-gw.transmeta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:29:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3A71A5B5.7AE35C97@transmeta.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:28:37 -0800 From: "H. Peter Anvin" Organization: Transmeta Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en, sv, no, da, es, fr, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jamie Lokier CC: Lars Marowsky-Bree , James Sutherland , "David S. Miller" , Matti Aarnio , "H. Peter Anvin" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN In-Reply-To: <20010126124426.O2360@marowsky-bree.de> <20010126154447.L3849@marowsky-bree.de> <20010126160342.B7096@pcep-jamie.cern.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Jamie Lokier wrote: > > Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: > > First, you are ignoring a TCP_RST, which means "stop trying". > > That's why we stop when we receive the second TCP RST. > It's just like dropping due to congestion, which is of course perfectly > safe in moderation. > No, you can't issue multiple connects in response to a single socket option. One can argue that it would have been OK for these firewalls to drop ECN packets, but replying with RST is just too broken to live. -hpa -- at work, in private! "Unix gives you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot." http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/puzzle.txt - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/