From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:21:43 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:21:33 -0500 Received: from [64.16.10.150] ([64.16.10.150]:21513 "EHLO cougar.intrinsyc.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:21:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3A72074E.2115A9CE@intrinsyc.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:25:02 -0500 From: Daniel Chemko Reply-To: dchemko@intrinsyc.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Sutherland CC: "Linux-Kernel (E-mail)" Subject: Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Microsoft are bad for dropping ICMP because of security.. .I mean try pinging microsoft.com... James Sutherland wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: > > > On 2001-01-26T16:04:03, > > "Randal, Phil" said: > > > > > We may be right, "they" may be wrong, but in the real world > > > arrogance rarely wins anyone friends. > > > > So you also turn of PMTU and just set the MTU to 200 bytes because broken > > firewalls may drop ICMP ? > > No - a workaround is used to detect such "black holes". Much as I was > advocating for ECN, in fact. Also note that some firewalls (Microsoft's in > particular) DO drop ICMP packets. > > James. > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/