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From: Andrew Morton <andrewm@uow.edu.au>
To: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@oss.sgi.com" <netdev@oss.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: sendfile+zerocopy: fairly sexy (nothing to do with ECN)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 00:29:02 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A72CD1E.32BB523F@uow.edu.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3A726087.764CC02E@uow.edu.au> <Pine.GSO.4.30.0101270729270.24088-100000@shell.cyberus.ca>

jamal wrote:
> 
> ..
> It is also useful to have both client and server stats.
> BTW, since the laptop (with the 3C card) is the client, the SG
> shouldnt kick in at all.

The `client' here is doing the sendfiling, so yes, the
gathering occurs on the client.

> ...
> > The test tool is, of course, documented [ :-)/2 ].  It's at
> >
> >       http://www.uow.edu.au/~andrewm/linux/#zc
> >
> 
> I'll give this a shot later. Can you try with the sendfiled-ttcp?
> http://www.cyberus.ca/~hadi/ttcp-sf.tar.gz

hmm..  I didn't bother with TCP_CORK because the files being
sent are "much" larger than a frame.  Guess I should.

The problem with things like ttcp is the measurement of CPU load.
If your network is so fast that your machine can't keep up then
fine, raw throughput is a good measure. But if the link is saturated
then normal process accounting doesn't cut it.

For example, at 100 mbps, `top' says ttcp is chewing 4% CPU. But guess
what?  A low-priority process running on the same machine is in fact
slowed down by 30%.  top lies.  Most of the cost of the networking layer
is being accounted to swapper, and lost.  And who accounts for cache
eviction, bus utilisation, etc.  We're better off measuring what's
left behind, rather than measuring what is consumed.

You can in fact do this with ttcp: run it with a super-high priority
and run a little task in the background (dummyload.c in the above
tarball does this).  See how much the dummy task is slowed down
wrt an unloaded system.  It gets tricky on SMP though.

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-27 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-27  5:45 sendfile+zerocopy: fairly sexy (nothing to do with ECN) Andrew Morton
2001-01-27  6:20 ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-01-27  8:19   ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-27 10:09     ` Ion Badulescu
2001-01-27 10:45       ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-30  6:00     ` David S. Miller
2001-01-30 12:44       ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-30 12:52         ` David S. Miller
2001-01-30 14:58           ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-30 17:49             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-30 22:17               ` David S. Miller
2001-01-31  0:31                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-31  0:45                   ` David S. Miller
2001-01-30 22:28             ` David S. Miller
2001-01-30 23:34               ` Andrew Morton
2001-02-02 10:12       ` Andrew Morton
2001-02-02 12:14         ` Trond Myklebust
2001-02-02 17:51         ` David Lang
2001-02-02 22:46           ` David S. Miller
2001-02-02 22:57             ` David Lang
2001-02-02 23:09               ` David S. Miller
2001-02-02 23:13                 ` David Lang
2001-02-02 23:28                   ` Jeff Barrow
2001-02-02 23:31                   ` David S. Miller
2001-02-03  2:27               ` James Sutherland
2001-01-27 10:05 ` Ion Badulescu
2001-01-27 10:39   ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-27 12:49   ` jamal
2001-01-30  1:06     ` Ion Badulescu
2001-01-30  2:48       ` jamal
2001-01-30  3:26         ` Ion Badulescu
2001-01-31  0:53           ` Still not sexy! (Re: " jamal
2001-01-31  0:59             ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-31  1:04               ` jamal
2001-01-31  1:14                 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-31  1:39                   ` jamal
2001-01-31 11:21                   ` Malcolm Beattie
2001-01-31 11:24                     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-31  1:10             ` Still not sexy! (Re: sendfile+zerocopy: fairly sexy (nothing to dowith ECN) Rick Jones
2001-01-31  1:45               ` jamal
2001-01-31  2:25                 ` Still not sexy! (Re: sendfile+zerocopy: fairly sexy (nothing todowith ECN) Rick Jones
2001-02-04 19:48                   ` jamal
2001-02-05  5:13                     ` David S. Miller
2001-02-05 18:51                     ` Rick Jones
2001-01-27 12:43 ` sendfile+zerocopy: fairly sexy (nothing to do with ECN) jamal
2001-01-27 13:29   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2001-01-27 14:15     ` jamal
2001-01-28 16:05       ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-29 18:50   ` Rick Jones
     [not found] ` <200101271854.VAA02845@ms2.inr.ac.ru>
2001-01-28  5:34   ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-28 13:37     ` Felix von Leitner
2001-01-28 14:11       ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-28 14:27       ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-29 21:50         ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-28 19:43       ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-28 19:48       ` Choosing Linux NICs (was: Re: sendfile+zerocopy: fairly sexy (nothing to do with ECN)) Felix von Leitner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-29 16:16 sendfile+zerocopy: fairly sexy (nothing to do with ECN) Jonathan Earle
2001-01-29 16:34 ` Antonin Kral
2001-01-31  1:49 Bernd Eckenfels

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