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From: Joe deBlaquiere <jadb@redhat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: yodaiken@fsmlabs.com, Andrew Morton <andrewm@uow.edu.au>,
	Nigel Gamble <nigel@nrg.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-audio-dev@ginette.musique.umontreal.ca
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] low-latency scheduling patch for 2.4.0
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:44:21 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A76E155.2030905@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3A75A70C.4050205@redhat.com>  <200101220150.UAA29623@renoir.op.net> <Pine.LNX.4.05.10101211754550.741-100000@cosmic.nrg.org>, <Pine.LNX.4.05.10101211754550.741-100000@cosmic.nrg.org>; <20010128061428.A21416@hq.fsmlabs.com> <3A742A79.6AF39EEE@uow.edu.au> <3A74462A.80804@redhat.com> <20010129084410.B32652@hq.fsmlabs.com> <30672.980867280@redhat.com>



David Woodhouse wrote:

> jadb@redhat.com said:
> 
>> (If you're running a program XIP from flash and a  RT interrupt leaves
>> the flash in a unreadable state, boom!).
> 
> 
> Bad example. I don't expect Linux to support writable XIP any time in the 
> near future. The only thing I envisage myself doing to help people who want 
> writable XIP is to take away their crackpipe.
> 

I wasn't thinking of running the kernel XIP from writable, but even 
trying to do that from the filesystem is a mess. If you're going to be 
that way about it...

/me hands over the crackpipe

> Until we get dual-port flash, of course.
> 
> The thing that really does concern me about the flash driver code is the
> fact that it often wants to wait for about 100µs. On machines with
> HZ==100, that sucks if you use udelay() and it sucks if you schedule(). So
> we end up dropping the spinlock (so at least bottom halves can run again)
> and calling:
> 
> static inline void cfi_udelay(int us)
> {
>         if (current->need_resched)
>                 schedule();
>         else
>                 udelay(us);
> }
> 

The locical answer is run with HZ=10000 so you get 100us intervals, 
right ;o). On systems with multiple hardware timers you could kick off a 
single event at 200us, couldn't you? I've done that before with the 
extra timer assigned exclusively to a resource. It's not a giant time 
slice, but at least you feel like you're allowing something to happen, 
right?

> 
> --
> dwmw2


-- 
Joe

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-30 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-07  2:53 low-latency scheduling patch for 2.4.0 Andrew Morton
2001-01-11  3:12 ` [linux-audio-dev] " Jay Ts
2001-01-11  3:22   ` Cort Dougan
2001-01-11 12:38     ` Alan Cox
2001-01-11 11:30   ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-11  5:19     ` David S. Miller
2001-01-11 13:57       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-11 20:55       ` Nigel Gamble
2001-01-11 21:31         ` David S. Miller
2001-01-15  5:27           ` george anzinger
2001-01-12 13:30         ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-12 15:11           ` Tim Wright
2001-01-12 22:30             ` Nigel Gamble
2001-01-13  1:01             ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-15 19:46               ` Tim Wright
2001-01-12 22:46           ` Nigel Gamble
2001-01-12 23:08           ` george anzinger
2001-01-21  0:05           ` yodaiken
2001-01-22  0:54             ` Nigel Gamble
2001-01-22  1:49               ` Paul Barton-Davis
2001-01-22  2:21                 ` Nigel Gamble
2001-01-22  3:31                   ` J Sloan
2001-01-28 13:14                   ` yodaiken
2001-01-28 14:07                     ` Bill Huey
2001-01-28 14:26                       ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-29  5:02                       ` yodaiken
2001-01-28 14:19                     ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-28 16:17                       ` Joe deBlaquiere
2001-01-29 15:44                         ` yodaiken
2001-01-29 17:23                           ` Joe deBlaquiere
2001-01-29 17:38                             ` yodaiken
2001-01-29 18:03                               ` Joe deBlaquiere
2001-01-30 15:08                           ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-30 15:44                             ` Joe deBlaquiere [this message]
2001-01-30 16:29                               ` Paul Davis
2001-01-30 16:35                                 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-31  7:55                               ` george anzinger
2001-01-30 16:19                             ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-01 12:40                               ` Pavel Machek
2001-02-01 22:33                                 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-02  4:17                                   ` Joe deBlaquiere
2001-01-30 20:51                             ` yodaiken
2001-01-30 21:00                               ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-29 22:08                         ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-29 22:31                         ` Roger Larsson
2001-01-29 23:46                           ` Joe deBlaquiere
2001-01-30 15:08                       ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-12 13:21       ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-13  2:45     ` Jay Ts
2001-01-21  0:10       ` yodaiken
2001-01-26  9:14         ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-13 18:11     ` video drivers hog pci bus ? [was:[linux-audio-dev] low-latency scheduling patch for 2.4.0] Jörn Nettingsmeier
2001-01-14 11:35 ` low-latency scheduling patch for 2.4.0 Andrew Morton
2001-01-14 14:38   ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-15 10:59     ` Andrew Morton

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