From: Stefan Smietanowski <stefan@hanse.com>
To: Dennis <dennis@etinc.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux stifles innovation...
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:20:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A8FE852.2F61720C@hanse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20010216170349.01efc030@mail.etinc.com> <5.0.0.25.0.20010217150612.0390d950@mail.etinc.com>
Hi.
Thought I'd toss my 0.02sek into the discussion.
> > > objective, arent we?
> >Nope. Are you claiming to be?
> >
> > > For example, if there were six different companies that marketed ethernet
> > > drivers for the eepro100, you'd have a choice of which one to buy..perhaps
> >... Rant deleted
> >
> >I had a problem with eepro100.
> >It was fixed same night cause I had the source.
> >Don't even try to compare with MickyS**t.
>
> good commercial drivers dont need fixing. another point. You are arguing
> that having source is required to fix crappy code, which i agree with.
Ok, tell that to my SBLive that absolutely loves jumping and jittering
on my SMP box under Win2k. Creative have been notified. Ever since they
released their first driver for it...
So if they would've had their driver out in the open I'm sure SOMEONE,
if not me, would've squashed the bug already.
So you're right, good commercial drivers don't need fixing.
Also, good open-source drivers don't need fixing.
Good drivers don't need fixing! Of course they don't!
But crap coding is crap coding no matter what license/distribution form
you put it under, be it open source, closed source or whatnot.
// Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-02-18 15:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 170+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-02-15 17:49 Linux stifles innovation fsnchzjr
2001-02-15 17:55 ` Stephen Frost
2001-02-15 18:04 ` Mark Haney
2001-02-15 19:49 ` David D.W. Downey
2001-02-15 20:20 ` Alan Olsen
2001-02-15 20:42 ` dave
2001-02-15 21:17 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-02-15 20:43 ` [OTP] " David D.W. Downey
2001-02-15 22:31 ` Bill Wendling
2001-02-15 22:37 ` William T Wilson
2001-02-16 12:45 ` Rik van Riel
2001-02-16 15:10 ` James Sutherland
2001-02-16 16:02 ` Mark Haney
2001-02-16 16:26 ` David Woodhouse
2001-02-16 16:30 ` Mark Haney
2001-02-16 19:23 ` David D.W. Downey
2001-02-16 20:18 ` James Sutherland
2001-02-17 0:03 ` Carlos Fernandez Sanz
2001-02-17 0:35 ` Dan Hollis
2001-02-17 0:41 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-02-17 1:52 ` Dan Hollis
2001-02-17 2:20 ` XOR [ was: Linux stifles innovation... ] David Relson
2001-02-17 2:32 ` Dan Hollis
2001-02-17 8:16 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-02-17 13:16 ` David Relson
2001-02-17 18:12 ` brian
2001-02-18 2:01 ` Dan Hollis
2001-02-17 9:08 ` Linux stifles innovation James Sutherland
2001-02-17 12:45 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-17 9:05 ` James Sutherland
2001-02-17 0:04 ` LA Walsh
2001-02-16 9:26 ` Helge Hafting
2001-02-16 9:36 ` James Sutherland
2001-02-16 12:44 ` Helge Hafting
2001-02-16 17:40 ` Joseph Pingenot
2001-02-16 14:25 ` Andrew Scott
2001-02-16 19:48 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-02-16 22:27 ` Dennis
2001-02-16 22:20 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-17 12:37 ` [LONG RANT] " Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-17 13:37 ` Russell King
2001-02-17 19:15 ` Henning P . Schmiedehausen
2001-02-17 22:03 ` Felix von Leitner
2001-02-18 11:54 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-18 12:26 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-18 13:43 ` Russell King
2001-02-18 9:27 ` Russell King
2001-02-17 19:20 ` Jacob Luna Lundberg
2001-02-18 1:06 ` Peter Samuelson
2001-02-18 4:15 ` Ben Ford
2001-02-17 18:48 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-02-19 9:24 ` Helge Hafting
2001-02-19 10:53 ` Werner Almesberger
2001-02-19 11:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-19 11:28 ` Nicholas Knight
2001-02-19 11:36 ` David Lang
2001-02-19 12:53 ` Nicholas Knight
2001-02-19 11:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-19 12:57 ` Nicholas Knight
2001-02-19 12:00 ` Werner Almesberger
2001-02-19 12:15 ` Henning P . Schmiedehausen
2001-02-19 16:04 ` Paul Jakma
2001-02-19 16:07 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-19 14:15 ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-20 23:39 ` Brian May
2001-02-19 11:59 ` Henning P . Schmiedehausen
2001-02-19 13:11 ` Werner Almesberger
2001-02-19 14:07 ` David Howells
2001-02-19 14:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-19 15:53 ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-02-19 16:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-19 19:11 ` The lack of specification (was Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation... ) Mikulas Patocka
2001-02-19 20:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-02-19 20:17 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-02-19 21:18 ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-02-19 21:34 ` The lack of specification Russell King
2001-02-19 21:47 ` Eli Carter
2001-02-19 15:58 ` [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation Richard B. Johnson
2001-02-19 16:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-19 16:26 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-19 21:57 ` Keith Owens
2001-02-19 19:27 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-02-17 16:54 ` Francois Romieu
2001-02-16 22:31 ` Dan Hollis
2001-02-16 22:51 ` David D.W. Downey
2001-02-16 22:59 ` Linux stifles innovation... [way O.T.] John Cavan
2001-02-16 23:07 ` Linux stifles innovation Mike A. Harris
2001-02-16 23:45 ` Matt D. Robinson
2001-02-16 23:46 ` Mike A. Harris
2001-02-17 0:15 ` Matt D. Robinson
2001-02-17 0:34 ` Werner Almesberger
2001-02-17 0:54 ` Matt D. Robinson
2001-02-17 1:58 ` Werner Almesberger
2001-02-17 12:41 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-17 17:51 ` Robert Read
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.3.96.1010217145415.31128A-100000@orion.hq.dalalu.fr>
2001-02-17 18:40 ` Henning P . Schmiedehausen
2001-02-16 23:33 ` Hristo Doichev
2001-02-17 0:01 ` Alan Olsen
2001-02-17 0:10 ` rjd
2001-02-17 1:34 ` Neal Dias
2001-02-17 2:05 ` Augustin Vidovic
2001-02-17 12:46 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-17 13:13 ` Roeland Th. Jansen
2001-02-21 23:00 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-02-21 23:17 ` Augustin Vidovic
2001-02-22 1:08 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-02-22 0:09 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-02-22 0:21 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-23 12:14 ` Wakko Warner
2001-02-23 12:31 ` David Weinehall
2001-02-27 8:48 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-02-17 7:20 ` Mike Pontillo
2001-02-17 16:11 ` [OT]Re: " Gregory Maxwell
2001-02-17 7:39 ` Vesselin Atanasov
2001-02-17 19:08 ` Dennis
2001-02-17 19:08 ` Mohammad A. Haque
2001-02-17 20:47 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-24 21:11 ` Dennis
2001-02-24 21:06 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-17 19:11 ` Dennis
2001-02-17 19:36 ` Francois Romieu
2001-02-17 20:48 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-17 19:24 ` Dennis
2001-02-17 19:38 ` Dennis
2001-02-17 20:01 ` Michael Bacarella
2001-02-17 20:11 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-02-17 19:56 ` Linux stifles innovation... [way O.T.] Dennis
2001-02-17 20:28 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-02-18 11:25 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-18 15:32 ` John Cavan
2001-02-18 0:13 ` Gerhard Mack
2001-02-17 20:05 ` Linux stifles innovation Dennis
2001-02-17 20:05 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-02-17 20:14 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-02-18 10:57 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-17 20:28 ` Alan Olsen
2001-02-21 23:48 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-02-17 22:07 ` Felix von Leitner
2001-02-17 20:08 ` Dennis
2001-02-17 20:22 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-02-17 20:41 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-02-18 10:59 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-18 21:02 ` Bob Taylor
2001-02-17 22:38 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-02-17 23:07 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-02-18 15:20 ` Stefan Smietanowski [this message]
2001-02-18 0:51 ` Peter Samuelson
2001-02-16 17:25 ` Byron Albert
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-02-16 17:21 Wayne.Brown
2001-02-18 2:10 Torrey Hoffman
2001-02-18 3:55 Torrey Hoffman
2001-02-18 5:15 ` Ben Ford
2001-02-18 11:17 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-18 16:42 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-02-18 18:00 ` Gregory S. Youngblood
2001-02-18 18:04 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-02-19 1:36 ` Gregory S. Youngblood
2001-02-18 18:21 ` Peter Svensson
2001-02-18 23:14 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-02-18 11:16 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-02-18 12:19 ` Francis Galiegue
2001-02-18 17:50 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-02-18 18:13 ` Henning P . Schmiedehausen
2001-02-18 22:15 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-02-18 22:25 ` Steve VanDevender
2001-02-18 22:31 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-02-18 11:46 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-22 0:11 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-02-22 1:39 Leif Sawyer
2001-02-22 1:44 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
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