From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@transmeta.com>
To: Bill Crawford <billc@netcomuk.co.uk>
Cc: Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Daniel Phillips <phillips@innominate.de>
Subject: Re: Hashing and directories
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:22:29 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A959F35.A99CEEEC@transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3A959BFD.B18F833@netcomuk.co.uk>
Bill Crawford wrote:
>
> A particular reason for this, apart from filesystem efficiency,
> is to make it easier for people to find things, as it is usually
> easier to spot what you want amongst a hundred things than among
> a thousand or ten thousand.
>
> A couple of practical examples from work here at Netcom UK (now
> Ebone :), would be say DNS zone files or user authentication data.
> We use Solaris and NFS a lot, too, so large directories are a bad
> thing in general for us, so we tend to subdivide things using a
> very simple scheme: taking the first letter and then sometimes
> the second letter or a pair of letters from the filename. This
> actually works extremely well in practice, and as mentioned above
> provides some positive side-effects.
>
This is sometimes feasible, but sometimes it is a hack with painful
consequences in the form of software incompatibilites.
> I guess what I really mean is that I think Linus' strategy of
> generally optimizing for the "usual case" is a good thing. It
> is actually quite annoying in general to have that many files in
> a single directory (think \winnt\... here). So maybe it would
> be better to focus on the normal situation of, say, a few hundred
> files in a directory rather than thousands ...
Linus' strategy is to not let optimizations for uncommon cases inflict
the common case. However, I think we can make an improvement here that
will work well even on moderate-sized directories.
My main problem with the fixed-depth tree proposal is that is seems to
work well for a certain range of directory sizes, but the range seems a
bit arbitrary. The case of very small directories is also quite
important, too.
-hpa
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-02-22 23:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-02-22 23:08 Hashing and directories Bill Crawford
2000-01-01 2:02 ` Pavel Machek
2001-03-01 20:54 ` Alexander Viro
2001-03-01 21:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-01 21:13 ` Alexander Viro
2001-03-01 21:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-02 9:04 ` Pavel Machek
2001-03-02 12:01 ` Oystein Viggen
2001-03-02 12:26 ` Tobias Ringstrom
2001-03-02 12:58 ` David Weinehall
2001-03-02 19:33 ` Tim Wright
2001-03-12 10:05 ` Herbert Xu
2001-03-12 10:43 ` Xavier Bestel
2001-03-01 21:23 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-03-01 21:26 ` Bill Crawford
2001-03-01 21:05 ` Tigran Aivazian
2001-03-02 8:56 ` Pavel Machek
2001-03-07 0:37 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-03-07 4:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-07 13:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-03-02 9:00 ` Pavel Machek
2001-03-03 0:03 ` Bill Crawford
2001-03-08 12:42 ` Goswin Brederlow
2001-04-27 16:20 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-02-22 23:22 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2001-02-22 23:54 ` Bill Crawford
2001-03-10 11:22 ` Kai Henningsen
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-03-07 15:56 Manfred Spraul
2001-03-07 16:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-03-07 16:23 ` Manfred Spraul
2001-03-07 18:21 ` Linus Torvalds
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