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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: New net features for added performance
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 19:03:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A984BDA.190B4D8E@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3A9842DC.B42ECD7A@mandrakesoft.com> <oupsnl3k5gs.fsf@pigdrop.muc.suse.de>

Andi Kleen wrote:
> 
> Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com> writes:
> 
> > Advantages:  A de-allocation immediately followed by a reallocation is
> > eliminated, less L1 cache pollution during interrupt handling.
> > Potentially less DMA traffic between card and host.
> >
> > Disadvantages?
> 
> You need a new mechanism to cope with low memory situations because the
> drivers can tie up quite a bit of memory (in fact you gave up unified
> memory management).

I think you misunderstand..  netif_rx frees the skb.  In this example:

	netif_rx(skb); /* free skb of size PKT_BUF_SZ */
	skb = dev_alloc_skb(PKT_BUF_SZ)

an alloc of a PKT_BUF_SZ'd skb immediately follows a free of a
same-sized skb.  100% of the time.

It seems an obvious shortcut to me, to have __netif_rx or similar
-clear- the skb head not free it.  No changes to memory management or
additional low memory situations created by this, AFAICS.


> 4) Better support for aligned RX by only copying the header, no the whole
> packet, to end up with an aligned IP header. Unless the driver knows about
> all protocol lengths this means the stack needs to support "parse header
> in this buffer, then switch to other buffer with computed offset for data"

This requires scatter-gather hardware support, right?  If so, would this
support only exist for checksumming hardware -- like the current
zerocopy -- or would non-checksumming SG hardware like tulip be
supported too?

	Jeff


-- 
Jeff Garzik       | "You see, in this world there's two kinds of
Building 1024     |  people, my friend: Those with loaded guns
MandrakeSoft      |  and those who dig. You dig."  --Blondie

  reply	other threads:[~2001-02-25  0:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-02-24 23:25 New net features for added performance Jeff Garzik
2001-02-24 23:48 ` Andi Kleen
2001-02-25  0:03   ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2001-02-25  0:12     ` Andi Kleen
2000-01-01  0:19       ` Pavel Machek
2001-03-04  1:19         ` LILO error with 2.4.3-pre1 Steven J. Hill
2001-03-04  1:39           ` Keith Owens
2001-03-04  2:27             ` Tom Sightler
2001-03-04 21:32             ` Mircea Damian
2001-03-04 23:05               ` Guest section DW
2001-03-04  2:39           ` Andre Tomt
2001-03-04  3:32             ` Steven J. Hill
2001-03-04 13:35           ` Alan Cox
2001-02-25  0:13     ` New net features for added performance Jeff Garzik
2001-02-25  0:16       ` Andi Kleen
2001-02-25 11:49   ` Rusty Russell
2001-02-26 23:48   ` David S. Miller
2001-02-27  0:03     ` Andi Kleen
2001-02-27  0:08       ` David S. Miller
2001-02-27  2:53         ` Jeremy Jackson
2001-02-27 19:59       ` kuznet
2001-02-25  1:55 ` Michael Richardson
2001-02-25  2:32 ` Jeremy Jackson
2001-02-25  3:23   ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-02-25 12:41     ` Werner Almesberger
2001-02-25 13:57       ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-02-25  2:38 ` Noah Romer
2001-03-03 23:32   ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-25 12:01 ` Andrew Morton
2001-02-25 15:11   ` Jeremy Jackson
2001-02-25 12:22 ` Werner Almesberger
2001-03-12 15:08   ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-25 13:08 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-02-26 23:46 ` David S. Miller
2001-02-27  0:07   ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-27  0:10     ` David S. Miller
2001-03-01 21:06 ` Jes Sorensen

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