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From: Martin Dalecki <dalecki@evision-ventures.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	hpa@transmeta.com, tytso@MIT.EDU, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Larger dev_t
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:35:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ABE023A.10D2FE24@evision-ventures.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0103241920580.6710-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl wrote:
> >
> > We need a size, and I am strongly in favor of sizeof(dev_t) = 8;
> > this is already true in glibc.
> 
> The fact that glibc is a quivering mass of bloat, and total and utter crap
> makes you suggest that the Linux kernel should try to be as similar as
> possible?
> 
> Not a very strong argument.
> 
> There is no way in HELL I will ever accept a 64-bit dev_t.
> 
> I _will_ accept a 32-bit dev_t, with 12 bits for major numbers, and 20
> bits for minor numbers.
> 
> If people cannot fit their data in that size, they have some serious
> problems. And for people who think that you should have meaningful minor
> numbers where the bit patterns get split up some way, I can only say "get
> a frigging clue". That's what you have filesystem namespaces for. Don't
> try to make binary name-spaces.
> 
> And I don't care one _whit_ about the fact that Ulrich Drepper thinks that
> it's a good idea to make things too large.

Amen. It's entierly sufficent to take a size similiar to the one
on systems which don't have the problems linux has in this area.
Our daily motto should be: "Maybe we don't know a shit about
OS design - but we known very well up to the ground how Solaris works."

Please forgive me If I stressed your sense of humour a bit too much :-)

  reply	other threads:[~2001-03-25 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-24 14:25 Larger dev_t Andries.Brouwer
2001-03-24 14:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-03-24 15:00   ` Alexander Viro
2001-03-25 14:22   ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-25  3:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-25 14:35   ` Martin Dalecki [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-03-24 16:13 Andries.Brouwer
2001-03-25 12:31 Andries.Brouwer
2001-03-25 15:35 ` Wichert Akkerman
2001-03-25 16:15   ` Mitchell Blank Jr
2001-03-25 16:54     ` Michel Wilson
2001-03-25 17:12       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-03-25 17:00     ` Jamie Lokier
2001-03-25 17:07     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-03-25 17:37       ` Michel Wilson
2001-03-25 18:21   ` Guest section DW
2001-03-25 20:50     ` diego
2001-03-25 17:55 ` Gerry
2001-03-27  6:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-26 21:18 John Byrne
2001-03-26 22:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-26 23:41 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-27  9:29 Andries.Brouwer
2001-03-27 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-27 19:28   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-27 19:51     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-27 21:21       ` Alan Cox
2001-03-27 21:35         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-27 22:02           ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-27 23:57             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-28 21:23               ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-28 21:40                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-28 21:44                 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-27 22:16           ` Alan Cox
2001-03-27 22:16             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-27 22:43               ` Russell King
2001-03-28 16:59                 ` Jeff Randall
2001-03-28  0:07             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-28  0:10               ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-28  0:24                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-28  2:19               ` Alan Cox
2001-03-28  7:08                 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-28 21:32                 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-29  3:53                   ` Alan Cox
2001-03-29 11:02                     ` Martin Dalecki
2001-04-02 20:02                       ` Alan Cox
2001-04-03  7:25                         ` Martin Dalecki
2001-04-03 12:19                           ` Alan Cox
2001-04-03 12:13                             ` Martin Dalecki
2001-04-03 12:38                               ` Alan Cox
2001-04-04  8:08                                 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-03-30  6:54                   ` Kai Henningsen
2001-03-28 21:18             ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-27 22:13         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-27 22:55           ` Dan Hollis
2001-03-27 22:58             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-27 23:42               ` Richard Gooch
2001-03-28  1:03             ` Paul Jakma
2001-03-28  1:35               ` Alexander Viro
2001-03-27 23:44           ` Andrew Pimlott
2001-03-28  0:28             ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-03-28  3:58           ` Johan Kullstam
2001-03-28  4:23             ` Alexander Viro
2001-03-28 11:57             ` Jesse Pollard
2001-03-28 18:13               ` Oliver Neukum
2001-03-28 19:05                 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-03-28 19:50                   ` Oliver Neukum
2001-03-28 21:36             ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-28 21:09           ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-28 21:24             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-28 21:46               ` Alexander Viro
2001-03-28 20:54     ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-28 11:52   ` Pjotr Kourzanoff
2001-03-28 12:11   ` Tim Jansen
2001-03-27 19:27 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-03-27 22:38 Jesse Pollard
2001-03-27 22:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-04-02 20:17 Andries.Brouwer
2001-04-02 21:45 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-03  7:28 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-04-03 10:09 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-03 12:06   ` Alan Cox
2001-04-03 12:20     ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-03 12:15       ` Martin Dalecki
2001-04-03 12:53         ` Alan Cox
2001-04-03 16:05           ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-03 16:34             ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-03 16:58               ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-03 16:54             ` Alan Cox
2001-04-03 17:02               ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-03 12:41       ` Alan Cox
2001-04-03 23:28       ` Tim Wright
2001-04-02 21:59 Andries.Brouwer
2001-04-03 14:48 Wayne.Brown
2001-04-03 15:34 ` Bart Trojanowski

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