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From: David <david@blue-labs.org>
To: Richard Gooch <rgooch@atnf.csiro.au>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: goodbye || alternatives
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:58:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3AD1F853.9070506@blue-labs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15057.16344.113642.668424@pizda.ninka.net>	<Pine.LNX.4.21.0104090250001.3595-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva> <200104090647.f396lK921118@mobilix.atnf.CSIRO.AU>

Or you can do as I have and setup port 26 SMTP, thereby routing around 
nazi ISP created damage.  Believe me, the damage that RBL, ORBS, etc can 
do is incredible.  I still use them, but I use them carefully and I 
provide escape routes for people who are still under a global 
everybody-is-guilty-by-default umbrella.

Any person who is in such a position is free to contact me and arrange 
for SMTP transit.

-d

Richard Gooch wrote:

> It's not a guilty-by-default attitude. The DUL is a way for ISPs to
> say "we can't make users accountable for email sent from these IP's,
> so if you're concerned about potential SPAM, block them at your
> end. We've set up a relay so our users can still send out email but
> can be held accountable for abuses".
> 
> The ISP could have blocked outgoing port 25 instead, forcing you to go
> via the relay. Then you'd have no choice.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-04-09 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-03 21:01 goodbye Rik van Riel
2001-04-04  1:14 ` goodbye Michael Peddemors
2001-04-07 23:32   ` goodbye Matti Aarnio
2001-04-08  4:09     ` goodbye Ralf Baechle
2001-04-08  4:17     ` goodbye David Fries
2001-04-12 21:31       ` goodbye Mike Fedyk
2001-04-08  5:10     ` goodbye kumon
     [not found]       ` <20010408011915.A14899@whitestar.soark.net>
2001-04-08  5:31         ` goodbye kumon
2001-04-08 10:22       ` goodbye Matti Aarnio
2001-04-08 11:50         ` goodbye kumon
2001-04-08 13:56         ` goodbye Rogier Wolff
2001-04-08 18:00           ` goodbye Davide Libenzi
2001-04-08 22:10           ` goodbye David Woodhouse
2001-04-09 19:12           ` goodbye Alan Cox
2001-04-09 19:36             ` goodbye Rogier Wolff
2001-04-08  5:58     ` goodbye Graham Murray
2001-04-08  6:19     ` goodbye Aaron Lehmann
2001-04-08 10:58       ` goodbye Olaf Titz
2001-04-09  4:33     ` goodbye Rik van Riel
2001-04-09  4:51       ` goodbye David S. Miller
2001-04-09  5:50         ` goodbye Rik van Riel
2001-04-09  6:47           ` goodbye Richard Gooch
2001-04-09 12:58             ` goodbye Billy Harvey
2001-04-09 17:58             ` David [this message]
2001-04-09 22:00           ` goodbye Matti Aarnio
2001-04-09 22:00             ` goodbye Rik van Riel
2001-04-09 23:40             ` goodbye Joseph Carter
2001-04-10  0:46               ` goodbye Rik van Riel
2001-04-09 19:30       ` goodbye Alan Cox
2001-04-09 19:20     ` [OT] goodbye Michael Peddemors
2001-04-09 21:34       ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-04-09 22:23         ` Matti Aarnio
2001-04-09 22:58           ` David
     [not found]   ` <9ao861$f1$1@ns1.clouddancer.com>
2001-04-08  2:07     ` goodbye Colonel
2001-04-08  2:56       ` goodbye john slee
2001-04-08  4:02         ` goodbye Joseph Carter
2001-04-08 13:22           ` goodbye Jeff Mcadams
2001-04-08 13:22           ` goodbye David Woodhouse
2001-04-08 15:41             ` goodbye Joseph Carter
2001-04-08  4:46         ` goodbye Stephen Satchell
2001-04-08 13:26         ` goodbye Rogier Wolff
2001-04-08 19:15         ` goodbye Ben Ford

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