2.4.3 - Module problems?

2.4.3 - Module problems?

[Matthew W. Lowe]

I just tried to upgrade from whatever kernel comes with redhat to 2.4.3.
The build, install and such was smooth. When I got to starting up,
everything appeared to work, until it got to my NIC cards. Neither of
them loaded properly. I've built in the EXACT same module for the NICs
as I did the previous kernel. They were the NE2000 PCI module and the
3C59X module. The two NICs I have are: Realtek 8029 PCI, 3COM Etherlink
III ISA. Both are PNP, the etherlink is NOT the one with the b extention
at the end.

Any help would be greatly appriciated.

Thanks,
   Matt

Re: 2.4.3 - Module problems?

[Jeff Garzik]

"Matthew W. Lowe" wrote:
> I just tried to upgrade from whatever kernel comes with redhat to 2.4.3.
> The build, install and such was smooth. When I got to starting up,
> everything appeared to work, until it got to my NIC cards. Neither of
> them loaded properly. I've built in the EXACT same module for the NICs
> as I did the previous kernel. They were the NE2000 PCI module and the
> 3C59X module. The two NICs I have are: Realtek 8029 PCI, 3COM Etherlink
> III ISA. Both are PNP, the etherlink is NOT the one with the b extention
> at the end.

Maybe this is a typo or maybe not -- "3c509" is for Etherlink III ISA,
"3c59x" is for recent 3com PCI/EISA busmastering 10/100 NICs.

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Re: 2.4.3 - Module problems?

[Matthew W. Lowe]

Jeff Garzik wrote:

> "Matthew W. Lowe" wrote:
> > I just tried to upgrade from whatever kernel comes with redhat to 2.4.3.
> > The build, install and such was smooth. When I got to starting up,
> > everything appeared to work, until it got to my NIC cards. Neither of
> > them loaded properly. I've built in the EXACT same module for the NICs
> > as I did the previous kernel. They were the NE2000 PCI module and the
> > 3C59X module. The two NICs I have are: Realtek 8029 PCI, 3COM Etherlink
> > III ISA. Both are PNP, the etherlink is NOT the one with the b extention
> > at the end.
>
> Maybe this is a typo or maybe not -- "3c509" is for Etherlink III ISA,
> "3c59x" is for recent 3com PCI/EISA busmastering 10/100 NICs.

Errr, yea you're right it was a typo ** hits head **. I was thinking about my
friends problem with his install of linux at the time of writing, he has the
3c59x.

>
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Re: 2.4.3 - Module problems?

[Alan Cox]

> as I did the previous kernel. They were the NE2000 PCI module and the
> 3C59X module. The two NICs I have are: Realtek 8029 PCI, 3COM Etherlink
> III ISA. Both are PNP, the etherlink is NOT the one with the b extention
> at the end.

Make sure you use either the kernel or the usermode PnP and not both. (You
probably want to turn kernel PnP off)

Re: 2.4.3 - Module problems?

[ecksfantom]

I had the same problem when i upgraded to 2.4.2. 
Upgrading to the latest modutils
(ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/modutils/v2.4/modutils-2.4.5.tar.gz)
should get you going again.

~Jarrod

On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Matthew W. Lowe wrote:

> I just tried to upgrade from whatever kernel comes with redhat to 2.4.3.
> The build, install and such was smooth. When I got to starting up,
> everything appeared to work, until it got to my NIC cards. Neither of
> them loaded properly. I've built in the EXACT same module for the NICs
> as I did the previous kernel. They were the NE2000 PCI module and the
> 3C59X module. The two NICs I have are: Realtek 8029 PCI, 3COM Etherlink
> III ISA. Both are PNP, the etherlink is NOT the one with the b extention
> at the end.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appriciated.
> 
> Thanks,
>    Matt
> 
> 
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Re: 2.4.3 - Module problems?

[Matthew W. Lowe]

I installed that, it fixed my one NIC... The 3COM. Or I assume it did, because
it shows up in ifconfig now, unlike the other one Unfortunately I still can't
ping the local host (destination net unreachable). I think that might just be a
byproduct of my main external card not working. Anyway, I double checked the
settings in both config files for the old kernel and the new one, the realtek
should be covered under the ne2000 pci mod. I built this directly into the
kernel and it still doesn't seem to be working. Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks,
  Matt
ecksfantom@home.com wrote:

> I had the same problem when i upgraded to 2.4.2.
> Upgrading to the latest modutils
> (ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/modutils/v2.4/modutils-2.4.5.tar.gz)
> should get you going again.
>
> ~Jarrod
>
> On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Matthew W. Lowe wrote:
>
> > I just tried to upgrade from whatever kernel comes with redhat to 2.4.3.
> > The build, install and such was smooth. When I got to starting up,
> > everything appeared to work, until it got to my NIC cards. Neither of
> > them loaded properly. I've built in the EXACT same module for the NICs
> > as I did the previous kernel. They were the NE2000 PCI module and the
> > 3C59X module. The two NICs I have are: Realtek 8029 PCI, 3COM Etherlink
> > III ISA. Both are PNP, the etherlink is NOT the one with the b extention
> > at the end.
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appriciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >    Matt
> >
> >
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How to tune TCP for heavily loaded sendmail box

[Andrew Chan]

Greetings,

I am running a relaying sendmail box and I would like it to be able to
handle up to 600 or so concurrent (incoming or outgoing) connections.

I tried that and discovered that TONS of incoming connections are stuck at
SYNC_RECV state. It is like the sendmail box received these port 25
connection attempts and then didn't know what to do with them.

I suspect I need to tune some of the TCP parameters so that the system can
handle many short lived TCP connections in an efficent manner. Any pointer
to this specific issue or general TCP tunning under Linux (2.4.2-ac28
kernel) will be most appreciated.

Thanks.

Andrew

Re: How to tune TCP for heavily loaded sendmail box

[Matti Aarnio]

On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 07:49:45AM +0800, Andrew Chan wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I am running a relaying sendmail box and I would like it to be able to
> handle up to 600 or so concurrent (incoming or outgoing) connections.
> 
> I tried that and discovered that TONS of incoming connections are stuck at
> SYNC_RECV state. It is like the sendmail box received these port 25
> connection attempts and then didn't know what to do with them.

	Such sockets don't make it to accept() -- the TCP connection
	setup is a three-way handshake, and SYN_RECV is just indication
	of the reception of the first part of it:

	1)  local  <-------  SYN ----------  remote
	2)  local  --------  ACK,SYN ----->  remote
	3)  local  <-------  ACk,ACK ------  remote

	Each of those  SYN_RECV  sockets have done 2, but have never
	heard back.   In normal case the state 3 is reached by 1.5
	times the roundtrip time between the two systems. (Presuming
	symmetric delays.)

	There is finite size queue of sockets that can sit in this
	particular state waiting for full open (3), after which the
	user programs can then get the sockets with  accept().

	It may be so called 'SYN-attack', although it might just as
	well be routing blackhole somewhere.

	Look for documents regarding SYN-Cookies, and how to enable them.
	( I.e. what values mean what at:
		/proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies )

> I suspect I need to tune some of the TCP parameters so that the system can
> handle many short lived TCP connections in an efficent manner. Any pointer
> to this specific issue or general TCP tunning under Linux (2.4.2-ac28
> kernel) will be most appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Andrew

/Matti Aarnio

RE: 2.4.3 - Module problems?

[Matthew W. Lowe]

Hey, Thanks for all the help everyone. So far this is my exact
configuration:
Two NICs, 3COM Etherlink III ISA, Realtek 8029 PCI (Covered by the
NE2000 PCI module). Both cards are setup for PnP, the modules have been
built into the kernel. (It worked in my old version with them build into
the kernel.)

I have upgraded to the latest modutils, and it appeared to fix the
problem with the 3COM Etherlink III card.

Alan Cox:
You mentioned turning PnP off if I was building the modules into the
kernel? Is there something in the later versions of the kernel that is
setup like that, or ?? (** didn't quite understand what you meant **)

Thanks,
   Matt

Re: 2.4.3 - Module problems?

[Francois Cami]

hi Matthew and everyone

I use a 3COM Etherlink III ISA and a 3C905C PCI in my firewall
box (i440BX mobo). (distro is slackware 7.1, kernels are either
2.2.19 or 2.4.3, modutils 2.3.1 (slackware 7.1 default) ).

The 3C905C was never a problem (and i guess your R8029 isn't either), 
however to make the 3C509 ISA work, I had to disable PnP in the 
card's firmware, with 3COM tools : see

http://www.3com.com/products/html/prodlist.html?family=570&cat=20&pathtype=download&tab=cat&selcat=Network%20Interface%20Cards%20%26%20Adapters

to download the DOS tools to configure your card without PnP, i.e.
manually
assigning an IRQ and address to it.

You'll have to declare to your BIOS that this particular IRQ is taken
by a non-PNP ISA card too.

Now it works well, whether i use a separate module or build the
module into the kernel.

I hope that helps.

François CAMI (new to the list)
francois.cami@supelec.fr


"Matthew W. Lowe" wrote:
> 
> Hey, Thanks for all the help everyone. So far this is my exact
> configuration:
> Two NICs, 3COM Etherlink III ISA, Realtek 8029 PCI (Covered by the
> NE2000 PCI module). Both cards are setup for PnP, the modules have been
> built into the kernel. (It worked in my old version with them build into
> the kernel.)
> 
> I have upgraded to the latest modutils, and it appeared to fix the
> problem with the 3COM Etherlink III card.
> 
> Alan Cox:
> You mentioned turning PnP off if I was building the modules into the
> kernel? Is there something in the later versions of the kernel that is
> setup like that, or ?? (** didn't quite understand what you meant **)
> 
> Thanks,
>    Matt
> 
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Re: 2.4.3 - Module problems?

[Jeff Garzik]

Francois Cami wrote:
> 
> hi Matthew and everyone
> 
> I use a 3COM Etherlink III ISA and a 3C905C PCI in my firewall
> box (i440BX mobo). (distro is slackware 7.1, kernels are either
> 2.2.19 or 2.4.3, modutils 2.3.1 (slackware 7.1 default) ).
> 
> The 3C905C was never a problem (and i guess your R8029 isn't either),
> however to make the 3C509 ISA work, I had to disable PnP in the
> card's firmware, with 3COM tools : see
> 
> http://www.3com.com/products/html/prodlist.html?family=570&cat=20&pathtype=download&tab=cat&selcat=Network%20Interface%20Cards%20%26%20Adapters
> 
> to download the DOS tools to configure your card without PnP, i.e.
> manually
> assigning an IRQ and address to it.
> 
> You'll have to declare to your BIOS that this particular IRQ is taken
> by a non-PNP ISA card too.

You can also use the Linux program
ftp://www.scyld.com/pub/diag/3c5x9setup.c

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Building 1024     |  man to fish, and a US Navy submarine will make sure
MandrakeSoft      |  he's never hungry again." -- Chris Neufeld