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From: John Cowan <jcowan@reutershealth.com>
To: unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input)@localhost.localdomain
Cc: John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>,
	james rich <james.rich@m.cc.utah.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: CMLConfigurator skins (was: CML2 1.1.3 is available)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:23:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ADC5FD9.9050905@reutershealth.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010416205556.A22960@thyrsus.com> <E14pTOH-0007ex-00@mercury.ccil.org> <20010417103856.A27762@thyrsus.com>

Eric S. Raymond wrote:

 > Other possibility: support only the 16 EGA colors by name.

Excellent idea!

 > But if I do that,
 > some of the X colors are just *wrong* on standard gray background
 > (cyan is a good example).

So let the user set the background color too.  I find gray backgrounds
a mortal pain (the "standard" 75% gray of browsers, e.g., is a bad
compromise between pictures, which want 50% gray, and text, which wants
100% gray = white).

When I write HTML, my only concession to non-Strictness is a
"bgcolor='white'" attribute in every <body> start-tag.

 > There's no way to get this right.

There's no way to get it Good and Right for all, without more work
than you are willing to put in, following the hacker *mabla*-tradition
of basically ignoring UI/HF issues.

But it is still possible to make it Bad and Right, using such a hack as
described above.  What you have now is Good and Right for some and Bad
and Wrong for others, and the number of "others" can only grow --- no
matter how much you dink the colors in Brownian motion, responding to
random electromagnetic forces from randoms.

 > So I choose to get it wrong in a simple
 > way rather than a complex, costly way.

Don't say you weren't warned, nag, nag, nag, ...

My strategy here is to make sufficient fuss that you are motivated to
get off your duff to shut me up. :-) Better me than some irate
newbie who decides that configuring kernels "can make you blind, man".

And whilst you are implementing this, make sure a range of font sizes
is allowed in the X version.  My middle-aged eyes are more and more
happy with the "huge" setting in the xterm control-rightbutton menu,
especially on SuperVGA screen sizes.

-- 
There is / one art             || John Cowan <jcowan@reutershealth.com>
no more / no less              || http://www.reutershealth.com
to do / all things             || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan
with art- / lessness           \\ -- Piet Hein


  reply	other threads:[~2001-04-17 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-16 21:42 CML2 1.1.3 is available Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-16 21:53 ` [kbuild-devel] " John Cowan
2001-04-16 22:28   ` james rich
2001-04-17  0:55     ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-17  1:28       ` Peter Samuelson
2001-04-17  3:20         ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-17  8:06           ` Andrew Pimlott
2001-04-17 10:25           ` Olaf Titz
2001-04-17 11:11       ` [kbuild-devel] " John Cowan
2001-04-17 14:38         ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-17 15:23           ` John Cowan [this message]
2001-04-17 16:14         ` Peter Samuelson
2001-04-17 13:14       ` [kbuild-devel] " Mike A. Harris
2001-04-19 23:20       ` Adam Sampson
2001-04-22  0:03         ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-04-16 22:00 ` Steven Cole
2001-04-16 22:06   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-16 22:26     ` Steven Cole
2001-04-17  7:15 ` Marko Kreen

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