From: george anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <mikeg@wen-online.de>
Cc: Nigel Gamble <nigel@nrg.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: #define HZ 1024 -- negative effects?
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 01:46:47 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3AEBD4F7.D5B2517F@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0104280646140.430-100000@mikeg.weiden.de>
Mike Galbraith wrote:
>
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Nigel Gamble wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Nigel Gamble wrote:
> > > > > What about SCHED_YIELD and allocating during vm stress times?
> > >
> > > snip
> > >
> > > > A well-written GUI should not be using SCHED_YIELD. If it is
> > >
> > > I was refering to the gui (or other tasks) allocating memory during
> > > vm stress periods, and running into the yield in __alloc_pages()..
> > > not a voluntary yield.
> >
> > Oh, I see. Well, if this were causing the problem, then running the GUI
> > at a real-time priority would be a better solution than increasing the
> > clock frequency, since SCHED_YIELD has no effect on real-time tasks
> > unless there are other runnable real-time tasks at the same priority.
> > The call to schedule() would just reschedule the real-time GUI task
> > itself immediately.
> >
> > However, in times of vm stress it is more likely that GUI performance
> > problems would be caused by parts of the GUI having been paged out,
> > rather than by anything which could be helped by scheduling differences.
>
> Agreed. I wasn't thinking about swapping, only kswapd not quite keeping
> up with laundering, and then user tasks having to pick up some of the
> load. Anyway, I've been told that for most values of HZ the slice is
> 50ms, so my reasoning wrt HZ/SCHED_YIELD was wrong. (begs the question
> why do some archs use higher HZ values?)
>
Well, almost. Here is the scaling code:
#if HZ < 200
#define TICK_SCALE(x) ((x) >> 2)
#elif HZ < 400
#define TICK_SCALE(x) ((x) >> 1)
#elif HZ < 800
#define TICK_SCALE(x) (x)
#elif HZ < 1600
#define TICK_SCALE(x) ((x) << 1)
#else
#define TICK_SCALE(x) ((x) << 2)
#endif
#define NICE_TO_TICKS(nice) (TICK_SCALE(20-(nice))+1)
This, by the way, is new with 2.4.x. As to why, it has more to do with
timer resolution than anything else. Timer resolution is 1/HZ so higher
HZ => better resolution. Of course, you must pay for it. Nothing is
free :) Higher HZ means more interrupts => higher overhead.
George
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-04-29 8:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-04-26 18:19 #define HZ 1024 -- negative effects? Adam J. Richter
2001-04-26 18:31 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-26 20:24 ` Dan Mann
2001-04-27 10:04 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-04-27 15:06 ` Dan Mann
2001-04-27 19:26 ` Nigel Gamble
2001-04-27 20:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-04-27 23:22 ` Nigel Gamble
2001-04-28 4:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-04-29 8:46 ` george anzinger [this message]
[not found] <fa.gh4u8sv.17i1q6@ifi.uio.no>
2001-04-26 2:02 ` Dan Maas
2001-04-26 2:30 ` Werner Puschitz
2001-04-26 3:51 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-04-28 8:23 ` Guus Sliepen
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-04-24 23:20 Michael Rothwell
2001-04-25 22:40 ` Nigel Gamble
2001-04-29 21:44 ` Jim Gettys
2001-04-29 21:59 ` Michael Rothwell
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