From: Neil Conway <nconway.list@ukaea.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] SMP race in ext2 - metadata corruption.
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:47:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3AED26B0.8598C241@ukaea.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0104270953280.2067-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
Hiya.
Linus Torvalds wrote:
> So anybody who depends on "dump" getting backups right is already playing
> russian rulette with their backups. It's not at all guaranteed to get the
> right results - you may end up having stale data in the buffer cache that
> ends up being "backed up".
>
> Dump was a stupid program in the first place. Leave it behind.
Ouch. I just re-read the man page and it doesn't caution (*) against
using it on mounted filesystems. That probably means that there are
thousands of other losers like me using it on production machines.
Volunteers to (a) change the man page, (b) talk to the distros about
dumping "dump"?
> However, it may be that in the long run it would be advantageous to have a
> "filesystem maintenance interface" for doing things like backups and
> defragmentation..
Yup, sounds good.
Neil
(*) The KNOWNBUGS file mentions "possible" problems while dumping active
mounted filesystems, but I've (elsewhere) seen these characterised as no
real problem; also, this falls a long way short of discouraging use in
this fashion.
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[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0104270953280.2067-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-04-27 17:36 ` [PATCH] SMP race in ext2 - metadata corruption Jeff Garzik
[not found] ` <3AE9A69B.D11F0BBD@evision-ventures.com>
2001-04-28 8:31 ` Matthias Urlichs
2001-04-28 13:20 ` Olaf Titz
2001-04-30 8:47 ` Neil Conway [this message]
2001-04-26 15:45 Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 18:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 18:24 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 19:00 ` Chris Mason
2001-04-26 18:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-26 19:08 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 19:17 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 20:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 19:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 19:34 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 19:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 19:55 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 20:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-26 20:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 20:49 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-26 21:07 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 23:25 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-27 0:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-27 0:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-27 0:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 21:13 ` Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
2001-04-27 18:02 ` LA Walsh
2001-04-27 18:17 ` dek_ml
2001-04-27 7:58 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-04-27 13:23 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-27 14:32 ` Ville Herva
2001-04-27 16:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-27 19:22 ` Shane Wegner
2001-04-28 4:55 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-04-28 10:05 ` Jens Axboe
2001-04-27 14:29 ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-03 6:23 ` volodya
2001-05-03 9:29 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-03 17:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-04 11:40 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-05-04 11:56 ` Jens Axboe
2001-05-04 15:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-04 17:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-05 3:18 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-06 0:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-06 2:14 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-06 2:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-06 3:00 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-06 3:15 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-06 3:32 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-06 3:59 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-06 12:47 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-06 19:46 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-06 20:58 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-07 4:08 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-07 18:42 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-11 14:54 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-18 14:46 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-11 20:00 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-06 3:38 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-06 3:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-04 12:15 ` Marc SCHAEFER
2001-05-04 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-04 17:39 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-04 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-04 18:29 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-04 19:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-05 11:20 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-05-05 17:11 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-04 18:20 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-04 18:35 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-04 18:49 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-04 19:15 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-04 19:36 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-04 19:58 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-04 20:04 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-04 19:04 ` Jens Axboe
2001-05-05 13:52 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-05-05 18:12 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-08 13:46 ` volodya
2001-05-09 10:30 ` Helge Hafting
2001-05-04 21:11 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-04 21:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-26 20:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 20:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 20:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-26 21:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-26 20:42 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-04-26 20:55 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-27 11:43 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-04-26 19:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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