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From: "Giacomo A. Catenazzi" <cate@dplanet.ch>
To: esr@thyrsus.com
Cc: Peter Samuelson <peter@cadcamlab.org>,
	CML2 <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Requirement of make oldconfig [was: Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1,  aka ...]
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 11:23:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3AEE80A3.EB0ACEB1@dplanet.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010427193501.A9805@thyrsus.com> <15084.12152.956561.490805@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20010429183526.B32748@thyrsus.com> <15085.37569.205459.898540@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20010430133932.B28849@thyrsus.com> <20010430141623.A15821@cadcamlab.org> <20010430152536.A29699@thyrsus.com>

"Eric S. Raymond" wrote:
> 
> Peter Samuelson <peter@cadcamlab.org>:
> > [esr]
> > > Besides, right now the configurator has a simple invariant.  It will
> > > only accept consistent configurations
> >
> > So you are saying that the old 'vi .config; make oldconfig' trick is
> > officially unsupported?  That's too bad, it was quite handy.
> 
> Depends on how you define `unsupported'.  Make oldconfig will tell you
> exactly and unambiguously what was wrong with the configuration.  I think
> if you're hard-core enough to vi your config, you're hard-core enough to
> interpret and act on
> 
>     This configuration violates the following constraints:
>     (X86 and SMP==y) implies RTC!=n
> 
> without needing some wussy GUI holding your hand :-).

I think that a fundamental requirment is that 'make oldconfig' should
validate any configurations (also the wrong conf).
(If you correct your rules, our old .config can be invalid on a new
kernel, and we don't want regualary edit our .config).

My proposal is instaed of complain about configuration violatation,
you just wrote the possible correct configuration and prompt user to
select the correct configuration.
In the case you cite, e.g. oldconfig shoud prompt:
  1) SMP=n
  2) RTC=m
  3) RTC=y
(assuming the ARCH is invariant).

To simplify your life you can require only tty (or ev. also menu mode)
for
there question. User normally use oldconfig in tty mode for simplicity
(there
are normally only few questions, thus is simple to have the question
already
in order, without to perse nearly empy menus).

	giacomo

  reply	other threads:[~2001-05-01  8:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-27 23:35 CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..." Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-29 15:12 ` John Stoffel
2001-04-29 22:35   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-29 22:43     ` [kbuild-devel] " Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-30 16:28     ` John Stoffel
2001-04-30 17:39       ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-30 19:16         ` Peter Samuelson
2001-04-30 19:25           ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-01  9:23             ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi [this message]
2001-05-01 16:31               ` Requirement of make oldconfig [was: Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka ...] Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-01 21:35                 ` Olivier Galibert
2001-05-01 22:26                   ` Tom Rini
2001-05-02 13:32           ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2001-05-02 17:49             ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-02 20:12               ` John Stoffel
2001-05-03  7:04                 ` Hierarchy doesn't solve the problem Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-03  7:34                   ` Urban Widmark
2001-05-03  7:46                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-03 14:33                       ` Juan Quintela
2001-05-03 16:16                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-03 22:20                       ` Mike Castle
2001-05-03 12:32                 ` Requirement of make oldconfig [was: Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka ...] Horst von Brand
2001-05-03 12:47                   ` Alan Cox
2001-05-03 13:24                     ` Horst von Brand
2001-05-03 14:40                       ` Juan Quintela
2001-05-03 16:07                       ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-03 16:04                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-03 17:36                     ` Alan Cox
2001-04-30  1:36   ` CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..." Anton Altaparmakov
2001-04-30  1:41     ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-30  2:13       ` [kbuild-devel] " John Cowan
2001-04-30  2:24       ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-30  5:41         ` David Emory Watson
2001-04-30  5:50           ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-30  6:12             ` David Emory Watson
2001-04-30  6:53               ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-30  7:11                 ` [OT] " Jeff Garzik
2001-04-30  7:17                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-30 14:25                   ` Kai Henningsen
2001-04-30 15:54                   ` [kbuild-devel] " Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-30 10:57                 ` John Cowan
2001-04-30 13:30               ` David Woodhouse
2001-04-30 13:29             ` David Woodhouse
2001-04-30  7:05         ` volodya
2001-04-30  7:23           ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-30  7:40             ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-30  9:09               ` [Moving rapidly offtopic] " Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-04-30 16:16               ` nick
2001-04-30 17:12                 ` [kbuild-devel] " Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-30 17:20                   ` [OT] " Jeff Garzik
2001-04-30 17:25                     ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-30 19:44                   ` [kbuild-devel] " Gerhard Mack
2001-04-30 19:47                     ` nick
2001-04-30  3:26       ` volodya
2001-04-30  7:52     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-04-30  8:03       ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-30 16:17         ` volodya
2001-04-30  8:13       ` Anton Altaparmakov
     [not found] ` <15084.12830.973535.153706@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
2001-04-29 22:41   ` Eric S. Raymond

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