pcmcia problems after upgrading from 2.4.3-ac7 to 2.4.4

pcmcia problems after upgrading from 2.4.3-ac7 to 2.4.4

[Martin.Knoblauch]

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Hi,

 my DE-620 pccard stopped working after upgrading the kernel from
2.4.3-ac7 to 2.4.4. This is on a Toshiba 4080XCDT. I used the "good"
.config from the 2.4.3-ac7 build to do a make "oldconfig". The symptoms
at startup are:

>PCMCIA: Starting services:
>PCMCIA: using scheme: SuSE
>/lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/i82365.o: init_module: No such device
>Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ >parameters
>/lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/i82365.o: insmod >/lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/i82365.o failed
>/lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/i82365.o: insmod i82365 failed
>/lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o: init_module: Operation not permitted
>/lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o: insmod >/lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o failed
>/lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o: insmod ds failed
>cardmgr[189]: starting, version is 3.1.22
>PCMCIA: cardmanager is running
>cardmgr[189]: no pcmcia driver in /proc/devices
>cardmgr[189]: exiting

 As I said, worked fine until/including 2.4.3-ac7. Any ideas? And before
I forget, the base System is SuSe7.1 and all the packages mentioned in
Documentation/Changes are at the required (or better) levels.

Martin
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Re: pcmcia problems after upgrading from 2.4.3-ac7 to 2.4.4

[Alan Cox]

>  my DE-620 pccard stopped working after upgrading the kernel from
> 2.4.3-ac7 to 2.4.4. This is on a Toshiba 4080XCDT. I used the "good"
> .config from the 2.4.3-ac7 build to do a make "oldconfig". The symptoms
> at startup are:

2.4.4 has older pcmcia than 2.4.3-ac7. It might be that. Does 2.4.4-ac work ?

Re: pcmcia problems after upgrading from 2.4.3-ac7 to 2.4.4

[Martin.Knoblauch]

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Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> >  my DE-620 pccard stopped working after upgrading the kernel from
> > 2.4.3-ac7 to 2.4.4. This is on a Toshiba 4080XCDT. I used the "good"
> > .config from the 2.4.3-ac7 build to do a make "oldconfig". The symptoms
> > at startup are:
> 
> 2.4.4 has older pcmcia than 2.4.3-ac7. It might be that. Does 2.4.4-ac work ?
Alan,

 thanks for replying. Which 2.4.4-ac would you recommend? BUT, I
actually think that the pcmcia stuff broke already in the 2.4.3-ac
series at 9 or 10. At that point, I was to busy reporting it :-( Doing
new kernels on my notebook is kind of low priority... I had the
impression that either the rwsem or the pnpbios stuff was involved. As I
said, I did not follow up at that time.

Martin
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Re: pcmcia problems after upgrading from 2.4.3-ac7 to 2.4.4

[Martin.Knoblauch]

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Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> >  my DE-620 pccard stopped working after upgrading the kernel from
> > 2.4.3-ac7 to 2.4.4. This is on a Toshiba 4080XCDT. I used the "good"
> > .config from the 2.4.3-ac7 build to do a make "oldconfig". The symptoms
> > at startup are:
> 
> 2.4.4 has older pcmcia than 2.4.3-ac7. It might be that. Does 2.4.4-ac work ?

 just some additional info. The card actually stopped working in
2.4.3-a11 upwards with the same symptoms as in my original request.

 2.4.3-ac9 is the last working one. Not sure about -ac10, because that
one crashes during boot (not related to pcmcia as far as I can
remember). So, what was added in ac11 or ac10 that could hurt pcmcia or
the i82365 module?

 I'll now try 2.4.4-ac4.

Martin
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Re: pcmcia problems after upgrading from 2.4.3-ac7 to 2.4.4

[Martin.Knoblauch]

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"Martin.Knoblauch" wrote:
> 
> Alan Cox wrote:
> >
> > >  my DE-620 pccard stopped working after upgrading the kernel from
> > > 2.4.3-ac7 to 2.4.4. This is on a Toshiba 4080XCDT. I used the "good"
> > > .config from the 2.4.3-ac7 build to do a make "oldconfig". The symptoms
> > > at startup are:
> >
> > 2.4.4 has older pcmcia than 2.4.3-ac7. It might be that. Does 2.4.4-ac work ?
> 
>  just some additional info. The card actually stopped working in
> 2.4.3-a11 upwards with the same symptoms as in my original request.
> 
>  2.4.3-ac9 is the last working one. Not sure about -ac10, because that
> one crashes during boot (not related to pcmcia as far as I can
> remember). So, what was added in ac11 or ac10 that could hurt pcmcia or
> the i82365 module?
> 
>  I'll now try 2.4.4-ac4.
> 

 done. Unfortunatelly, it fails with the same symptoms as posted
initially. 

Thanks
Martin
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[Solved ?] Re: pcmcia problems after upgrading from 2.4.3-ac7 to 2.4.4

[Martin.Knoblauch]

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Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> >  my DE-620 pccard stopped working after upgrading the kernel from
> > 2.4.3-ac7 to 2.4.4. This is on a Toshiba 4080XCDT. I used the "good"
> > .config from the 2.4.3-ac7 build to do a make "oldconfig". The symptoms
> > at startup are:
> 
> 2.4.4 has older pcmcia than 2.4.3-ac7. It might be that. Does 2.4.4-ac work ?
Hi,

 after some experimenting, I found a solution that works for me. Looking
at the README-2.4 file for the pcmcia-cs package, I found that there is
a strong advice AGAINST using the i82365 module when runnung 2.4.x
kernels. Instead yenta_sockets should be specified. I changed that and
guess what - pcmcia is working again for me.

  I am not sure whether this should be closed alltogether. Maybe i82365
was not the proper choice for my hardware in the first place. Anyway,
the module seems to be retired as of 2.4.3-ac10/ac11. Maybe a hint
should go into the changes document.

Thanks for the patience
Martin
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Re: [Solved ?] Re: pcmcia problems after upgrading from 2.4.3-ac7 to 2.4.4

[David Woodhouse]

Martin.Knoblauch@TeraPort.de said:
> 
>   I am not sure whether this should be closed alltogether. Maybe
> i82365 was not the proper choice for my hardware in the first place.
> Anyway, the module seems to be retired as of 2.4.3-ac10/ac11. Maybe a
> hint should go into the changes document. 

i82365 is for use only on PCMCIA bridges, not CardBus. It should not be 
'retired' but should probably have the config option renamed to prevent 
confusion.

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Re: [Solved ?] Re: pcmcia problems after upgrading from 2.4.3-ac7 to 2.4.4

[Martin.Knoblauch]

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David Woodhouse wrote:
> 
> Martin.Knoblauch@TeraPort.de said:
> >
> >   I am not sure whether this should be closed alltogether. Maybe
> > i82365 was not the proper choice for my hardware in the first place.
> > Anyway, the module seems to be retired as of 2.4.3-ac10/ac11. Maybe a
> > hint should go into the changes document.
> 
> i82365 is for use only on PCMCIA bridges, not CardBus. It should not be
> 'retired' but should probably have the config option renamed to prevent
> confusion.
> 

 good idea. maybe the token "bridge" should appear in both the Cardbus
and PCMCIA case. It *may* have brought me on track a bit earlier :-)

 It was also confusing, that the i82365 module worked [for me]
until/including 2.4.3-ac9.

 Anyway, the story just shows that reading the docs helps from time to
time. :-)

Martin
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Re: [Solved ?] Re: pcmcia problems after upgrading from 2.4.3-ac7 to 2.4.4

[Wayne.Brown]

The thing that confused me here was the help text in menuconfig.  The help for
CONFIG_I82365 says, "Say Y here to include support for PCMCIA and CardBus host
bridges that are register compatible with the Intel i82365 and/or the Yenta
specification: this includes virtually all modern PCMCIA bridges."  Also, the
help text for both this option and CONFIG_CARDBUS say, "If unsure, say Y," so I
selected both of them.  It wasn't until Jeff Garzik set me straight recently
that I began disabling CONFIG_I82365 and using CONFIG_CARDBUS alone.

Wayne




David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> on 05/07/2001 03:58:00 AM

To:   "Martin.Knoblauch" <Martin.Knoblauch@TeraPort.de>
cc:   Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (bcc:
      Wayne Brown/Corporate/Altec)

Subject:  Re: [Solved ?] Re: pcmcia problems after upgrading from 2.4.3-ac7 to
      2.4.4




Martin.Knoblauch@TeraPort.de said:
>
>   I am not sure whether this should be closed alltogether. Maybe
> i82365 was not the proper choice for my hardware in the first place.
> Anyway, the module seems to be retired as of 2.4.3-ac10/ac11. Maybe a
> hint should go into the changes document.

i82365 is for use only on PCMCIA bridges, not CardBus. It should not be
'retired' but should probably have the config option renamed to prevent
confusion.

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