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From: Martin Dalecki <dalecki@evision-ventures.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>, Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
Subject: Re: blkdev in pagecache
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 16:43:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3AF95789.CCF70FD9@evision-ventures.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010509043456.A2506@athlon.random> <3AF90A3D.7DD7A605@evision-ventures.com> <20010509151612.D2506@athlon.random>

Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> 
> On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 11:13:33AM +0200, Martin Dalecki wrote:
> > >   (buffered and direct) to work with a 4096 bytes granularity instead of
> >
> > You mean PAGE_SIZE :-).
> 
> In my first patch it is really 4096 bytes, but yes I agree we should
> change that to PAGE_CACHE_SIZE. The _only_ reason it's 4096 fixed bytes is that
> I wasn't sure all the device drivers out there can digest a bh->b_size of
> 8k/32k/64k (for the non x86 archs) and I checked the minimal PAGE_SIZE
> supported by linux is 4k. If Jens says I can sumbit 64k b_size without
> any problem for all the relevant blkdevices then I will change that in a
> jiffy ;). Anyways changing that is truly easy, just define
> BUFFERED_BLOCKSIZE to PAGE_CACHE_SIZE instad of 4096 (plus the .._BITS as
> well) and it should do the trick automatically. So for now I only cared
> to make it easy to change that.
> 
> > Exactly, please see my former explanation... BTW.> If you are gogin into
> > the range of PAGE_SIZE, it may be very well possible to remove the
> > whole page assoociated mechanisms of a buffer_head?
> 
> I wouldn't be that trivial to drop it, not much different than dropping
> it when a fs has a 4k blocksize. I think the dynamic allocation of the
> bh is not that a bad thing, or at least it's an orthogonal problem to
> moving the blkdev in pagecache ;).

I think the only guys which will have a hard time on this will be ibm's 
AS/390 people and maybe a far fainter pille of problems will araise in
lvm and raid
code... As I stated already in esp the AS/390 are the ones most confused
about
blksize_size ver. hardsect_size bh->b_size and so on semantics.
find /usr/src/linux -exec grep blksize_size /dev/null {} \;
shows this fine as well as the corresponding BLOCK_SIZE redefinition in
the
lvm.h file! Well not much worth of caring about I think... (It will just
*force*
them to write cleaner code 8-).

> 
> > Basically this is something which should come down to the strategy
> > routine
> > of the corresponding device and be fixed there... And then we have this
> 
> so you mean the device driver should make sure blk_size is PAGE_CACHE_SIZE
> aligned and to take care of writing zero in the pagecache beyond the end
> of the device? That would be fine from my part but I'm not yet sure
> that's the cleanest manner to handle that.

Yes that's about it. We *can* afford to expect that the case of access
behind
a device should be handled as an exception and not by checks
beforeahead.
This should greatly simplify the main code...

> 
> > Some notes about the code:
> >
> >       kdev_t dev = inode->i_rdev;
> > -     struct buffer_head * bh, *bufferlist[NBUF];
> > -     register char * p;
> > +     int err;
> >
> > -     if (is_read_only(dev))
> > -             return -EPERM;
> > +     err = -EIO;
> > +     if (iblock >= (blk_size[MAJOR(dev)][MINOR(dev)] >>
> > (BUFFERED_BLOCKSIZE_BITS - BLOCK_SIZE_BITS)))
> >                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > blk_size[MAJOR(dev)] can very well be equal NULL! In this case one is
> > supposed to assume blk_size[MAJOR(dev)][MINOR(dev)] to be INT_MAX.
> > Are you shure it's guaranteed here to be already preset?
> >
> > Same question goes for calc_end_index and calc_rsize.
> 
> that's a bug indeed (a minor one at least because all the relevant
> blkdevices initialize such array and if it's not initialized you notice
> before you can make any damage ;), thanks for pointing it out!

This kind of problem slipery in are the reasons for the last tinny
encapsulation patch I sendid
to Linus and Alan (for inclusion into 2.4.5)....

      parent reply	other threads:[~2001-05-09 14:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-09  2:34 blkdev in pagecache Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-09  9:13 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-05-09 12:48   ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-09 15:03     ` Reto Baettig
2001-05-09 15:04       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-09 13:16   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-09 14:14     ` Jens Axboe
2001-05-09 14:20       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-05-09 14:22         ` Jens Axboe
2001-05-09 14:43     ` Martin Dalecki [this message]

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