From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 18 May 2001 12:46:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 18 May 2001 12:45:58 -0400 Received: from t2.redhat.com ([199.183.24.243]:26108 "HELO executor.cambridge.redhat.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Fri, 18 May 2001 12:45:48 -0400 Message-ID: <3B0551B4.CB251F64@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 17:45:40 +0100 From: Arjan van de Ven Reply-To: arjanv@redhat.com Organization: Red Hat, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Eric S. Raymond" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up In-Reply-To: <20010518115839.E14309@thyrsus.com> <20010518123413.I14309@thyrsus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > > It would. Because people who like the old config would continue to use the > > old tools > > Excuse me? > Do you really believe that anyone is going to maintain the CML1 tools > for as long as a nanosecond after they get dropped out of the kernel tree? I hereby volunteer to maintain at least make oldconfig and make config, and perhaps make menuconfig. > Even supposing somebody were loony enough to do that, how would preserving > an old interface in amber do anything to explore new UI possibilities? kernel != GUI There are plenty of UI kernel configurators out there. Good ones. Bad ones. LOOK AT THEM. FIX THEM if you don't like them. But PLEASE don't even think about taking the current, very useful for advanced users, tools away without offering something of at least the same capabilities. > Perhaps I'm just unusually dense this morning. Given the rest of this thread, unusual is not the word that comes to my mind (sorry, open door and you asked for it)