ethtool and pre4

ethtool and pre4

[Jeff Garzik]

pre4 is out, and a couple ethernet drivers have gained support for
ethtool.  In order to take advantage of the new support, you can
download ethtool 1.2 from

	http://sf.net/projects/gkernel/

or check it out of CVS (instruction at the above URL).

-- 
Jeff Garzik      | "Do you have to make light of everything?!"
Building 1024    | "I'm extremely serious about nailing your
MandrakeSoft     |  step-daughter, but other than that, yes."

Mail admin notice

[Shawn Starr]

My emails may bounce between 3AM -> 8AM Est time, @Home is doing some
fiber upgrades and i dont have a second MX server (as I am the
domain/dns/mail etc).

Please bear with bounces until then.

Shawn.

Re: Mail admin notice

[Mike A. Harris]

On Sun, 20 May 2001, Shawn Starr wrote:

>Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 03:31:55 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Shawn Starr <spstarr@sh0n.net>
>To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>Subject: Mail admin notice
>
>
>My emails may bounce between 3AM -> 8AM Est time, @Home is doing some
>fiber upgrades and i dont have a second MX server (as I am the
>domain/dns/mail etc).
>
>Please bear with bounces until then.

You're saying that you consider it acceptable to bounce email to
5000 to 10000 people, possibly thousands of messages?  And that
you knew it may occur in advance?  I would think the responsible
thing to do would be to unsubscribe from the mailing list
temporarily until your problem is solved.  Anything less is
purely apathetic on your part.


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Signature poll:  I'm planning on getting a 12 or 16 port autosensing
10/100 ethernet switch soon for home use, and am interested in hearing
others recommendations on what to buy.  Cost isn't as important as is
functionality and quality.  Any suggestions appreciated.
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Re: Mail admin notice

[Matti Aarnio]

On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 06:28:24AM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote:
> On Sun, 20 May 2001, Shawn Starr wrote:
> >My emails may bounce between 3AM -> 8AM Est time, @Home is doing some
> >fiber upgrades and i dont have a second MX server (as I am the
> >domain/dns/mail etc).

	There is 3d+ some hours grace period during which vger
	doesn't need to be able to feed email to destination
	system, BUT AFTER THAT STARTS BOUNCING.
	(To  linux-kernel-owner, NOT to the list itself!)

	Alan Cox was awhile back offline for 2-3 days, and was
	amazed that trans-atlantic connection can feed email
	at full bandwidth of his network connection (512k, or
	whatever that was..)

> >Please bear with bounces until then.

	If you are unconnected for more than that 3d+, THEN
	you will be removed.  For few hours that is no problem.

	Begin connected to the network for few hours every day
	is no problem either, but then you would most likely
	have backup MX server, and issue an ETRN request for
	your domain there when you reconnect.

> You're saying that you consider it acceptable to bounce email to
> 5000 to 10000 people, possibly thousands of messages?  And that
> you knew it may occur in advance?  I would think the responsible
> thing to do would be to unsubscribe from the mailing list
> temporarily until your problem is solved.  Anything less is
> purely apathetic on your part.

	Mike.   Don't suggest something of which you apparently
	know nothing about.


/Matti Aarnio -- co-postmaster of vger.kernel.org.

Re: Mail admin notice my 2 cents

[Richard Reynolds]

I would have never signed up for this list, or any other if it didn't give me at
least a few hours worth of email bouncing neither myself, or usa.net is up
24/7/365, and i wouldn't expect that everyone has a dedicated email server, for
almost any list. plus I have had many problems with the @home's email servers,
if I relied on them I would probibly have been kicked off quite some time ago.

well thats my 2cents
Richard Reynolds
Richard.Reynolds@usa.net

On Sun, 20 May 2001, Matti Aarnio wrote:

> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 22:05:45 +0300
> From: Matti Aarnio <matti.aarnio@zmailer.org>
> To: Mike A. Harris <mharris@opensourceadvocate.org>
> Cc: Shawn Starr <spstarr@sh0n.net>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: Mail admin notice
> 
> On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 06:28:24AM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 May 2001, Shawn Starr wrote:
> > >My emails may bounce between 3AM -> 8AM Est time, @Home is doing some
> > >fiber upgrades and i dont have a second MX server (as I am the
> > >domain/dns/mail etc).
> 
> 	There is 3d+ some hours grace period during which vger
> 	doesn't need to be able to feed email to destination
> 	system, BUT AFTER THAT STARTS BOUNCING.
> 	(To  linux-kernel-owner, NOT to the list itself!)
> 
> 	Alan Cox was awhile back offline for 2-3 days, and was
> 	amazed that trans-atlantic connection can feed email
> 	at full bandwidth of his network connection (512k, or
> 	whatever that was..)
> 
> > >Please bear with bounces until then.
> 
> 	If you are unconnected for more than that 3d+, THEN
> 	you will be removed.  For few hours that is no problem.
> 
> 	Begin connected to the network for few hours every day
> 	is no problem either, but then you would most likely
> 	have backup MX server, and issue an ETRN request for
> 	your domain there when you reconnect.
> 
> > You're saying that you consider it acceptable to bounce email to
> > 5000 to 10000 people, possibly thousands of messages?  And that
> > you knew it may occur in advance?  I would think the responsible
> > thing to do would be to unsubscribe from the mailing list
> > temporarily until your problem is solved.  Anything less is
> > purely apathetic on your part.
> 
> 	Mike.   Don't suggest something of which you apparently
> 	know nothing about.
> 
> 
> /Matti Aarnio -- co-postmaster of vger.kernel.org.
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Re: Mail admin notice my 2 cents

[Mohammad A. Haque]

Richard Reynolds wrote:
> 
> I would have never signed up for this list, or any other if it didn't give me at
> least a few hours worth of email bouncing neither myself, or usa.net is up
> 24/7/365, and i wouldn't expect that everyone has a dedicated email server, for
> almost any list. plus I have had many problems with the @home's email servers,
> if I relied on them I would probibly have been kicked off quite some time ago.
> 


Any _service_ that offers email _should_ have backup MX servers in
place. Anythign less is  ..well.. stupid. 

If you're not a service provider and hostyour own dns/mail server, it's
your own choice. After all, you'll only be losing your own email and not
other people's email.


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