From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 25 May 2001 13:11:45 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 22 May 2001 12:25:26 -0400 Received: from [192.48.153.1] ([192.48.153.1]:6920 "EHLO sgi.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 22 May 2001 12:25:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3B0A9387.A1096DE5@sgi.com> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:27:51 -0500 From: Steve Modica Reply-To: modica@sgi.com Organization: sgi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.19-4.1mdk i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rogier Wolff CC: Richard Gooch , "Brent D. Norris" , "David S. Miller" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-net@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hams@vger.kernel.org, linux-ppp@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: ECN is on! In-Reply-To: <200105221612.SAA26062@cave.bitwizard.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Rogier Wolff wrote: > The "we'll turn it on in February" warning is worth NOTHING in this > situation: February comes and goes. March comes and goes. Everybody > who read the warning will think: Ok, so I must be fine. > > A warning of the form: "ECN will go on as soon as this message clears > the queues" would've been useful, as thousands (hundreds?) suddenly get > nothing anymore. > I agree with this line of thinking. The various academics studying geology have been warning California about "The Big One" for years now, and no one seems to care anymore. I don't think anyone's being lazy and I certainly don't have the information to comment on the size of their butts. So I'd rather just assume they were working very hard on other things (like getting TPC-H benchmarks to run!) Steve -- Steve Modica Manager - Networking Drivers Group "Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day, hit him with a fish and he leaves you alone" - me