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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>,
	Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] struct char_device
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 23:04:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3B0B28A9.7556908D@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105221936030.4713-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 22 May 2001, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> >
> > Alan recently straightened me out with "EVMS/LVM is partitions done
> > right"
> >
> > so... why not implement partitions as simply doing block remaps to the
> > lower level device?  That's what EVMS/LVM/md are doing already.
> 
> Because we still need the partitioning code for backwards
> compatibility. There's no way I'm going to use initrd to do partition
> setup with lvmtools etc.
> 
> Also, lvm and friends are _heavyweight_. The partitioning stuff should be
> _one_ add (and perhaps a range check) at bh submit time. None of this
> remapping crap. We don't need no steenking overhead for something we need
> to do anyway.

no no no.  Not -that- heavyweight.

Partition support becomes a -peer- of LVM.

Imagine a tiny blkdev driver that understood MS-DOS (and other) hardware
partitions, and exported N block devices, representing the underlying
device (whatever it is).  In fact, that might be even a -unifying-
factor:  this tiny blkdev module -is- your /dev/disk.  For example,

/dev/sda <-> partition_blkdev <-> /dev/disk{0,1,2,3,4}
/dev/hda <-> partition_blkdev <-> /dev/disk{5,6,7}

A nice side effect:  modular partition support, since its a normal
blkdev just like anything yes.

YES there is overhead, but if partitions are just another remapping
blkdev, you get all this stuff for free.

I do grant you that an offset at bh submit time is faster, but IMHO
partitions -not- as a remapping blkdev are an ugly special case.

Remapping to an unchanging offset in the make_request_fn can be fast,
too...

-- 
Jeff Garzik      | "Are you the police?"
Building 1024    | "No, ma'am.  We're musicians."
MandrakeSoft     |

  reply	other threads:[~2001-05-23  3:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-22 20:54 [PATCH] struct char_device Andries.Brouwer
2001-05-22 21:17 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-05-22 22:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-22 23:51   ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-23  0:06     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-23  0:14       ` Jens Axboe
2001-05-23  2:37       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-23  3:04         ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2001-05-23  3:21           ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-23  9:05         ` Alan Cox
2001-05-23  2:35     ` Linus Torvalds
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-05-23 20:01 Andries.Brouwer
2001-05-23 18:28 Andries.Brouwer
2001-05-23 18:42 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-23 15:24 Wayne.Brown
2001-05-23 13:34 Andries.Brouwer
2001-05-23 17:54 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-24 10:35   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-23 12:29 Andries.Brouwer
2001-05-23 12:30 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-23 13:26 ` Helge Hafting
2001-05-23 11:57 Andries.Brouwer
2001-05-23 12:13 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-23  6:47 Andries.Brouwer
2001-05-23  0:28 Andries.Brouwer
2001-05-23  0:38 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-23  0:22 Andries.Brouwer
2001-05-23  0:29 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-05-23  0:20 Andries.Brouwer
2001-05-23  2:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-23  0:01 Andries.Brouwer
2001-05-22 23:33 Andries.Brouwer
2001-05-23  0:03 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-22 22:17 Andries.Brouwer
2001-05-22 22:34 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-05-22 22:47 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-05-23  0:02   ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-23  0:14     ` Jens Axboe
2001-05-23  2:40     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-23 12:35       ` Martin Dalecki
2001-05-22 21:35 Andries.Brouwer
2001-05-22 22:00 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-05-22 19:52 Andries.Brouwer
2001-05-22 20:10 ` Alexander Viro
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.21.0105221007460.15685-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu >
2001-05-22 15:26 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-05-22 16:08   ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-22 16:12     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-22 17:30       ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-22 17:41         ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-22 19:22     ` Guest section DW
2001-05-22 19:25       ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-22 19:38       ` Oliver Xymoron
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.10.10105221050080.8984-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2001-05-22 14:59 ` Tommy Hallgren
2001-05-22 14:40 Tommy Hallgren
2001-05-22 14:18 Alexander Viro

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