From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:59:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:58:58 -0400 Received: from cloven-ext.nks.net ([216.139.204.130]:31515 "EHLO homer.mkintl.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:58:52 -0400 Message-ID: <3B1E5316.F4B10172@illusionary.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:58:14 -0400 From: Derek Glidden X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.5 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Alvord CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps In-Reply-To: <3B1E4CD0.D16F58A8@illusionary.com> <3b204fe5.4014698@mail.mbay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org John Alvord wrote: > > On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:31:28 -0400, Derek Glidden > wrote: > > > > >I'm beginning to be amazed at the Linux VM hackers' attitudes regarding > >this problem. I expect this sort of behaviour from academics - ignoring > >real actual problems being reported by real actual people really and > >actually experiencing and reporting them because "technically" or > >"theoretically" they "shouldn't be an issue" or because "the "literature > >[documentation] says otherwise - but not from this group. > > There have been multiple comments that a fix for the problem is > forthcoming. Is there some reason you have to keep talking about it? Because there have been many more comments that "The rule for 2.4 is 'swap == 2*RAM' and that's the way it is" and "disk space is cheap - just add more" than there have been "this is going to be fixed" which is extremely discouraging and doesn't instill me with all sorts of confidence that this problem is being taken seriously. Or are you saying that if someone is unhappy with a particular situation, they should just keep their mouth shut and accept it? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- #!/usr/bin/perl -w $_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$b=73;$c=142;$t=255;@t=map {$_%16or$t^=$c^=($m=(11,10,116,100,11,122,20,100)[$_/16%8])&110; $t^=(72,@z=(64,72,$a^=12*($_%16-2?0:$m&17)),$b^=$_%64?12:0,@z) [$_%8]}(16..271);if((@a=unx"C*",$_)[20]&48){$h=5;$_=unxb24,join "",@b=map{xB8,unxb8,chr($_^$a[--$h+84])}@ARGV;s/...$/1$&/;$d= unxV,xb25,$_;$e=256|(ord$b[4])<<9|ord$b[3];$d=$d>>8^($f=$t&($d >>12^$d>>4^$d^$d/8))<<17,$e=$e>>8^($t&($g=($q=$e>>14&7^$e)^$q* 8^$q<<6))<<9,$_=$t[$_]^(($h>>=8)+=$f+(~$g&$t))for@a[128..$#a]} print+x"C*",@a}';s/x/pack+/g;eval usage: qrpff 153 2 8 105 225 < /mnt/dvd/VOB_FILENAME \ | extract_mpeg2 | mpeg2dec - http://www.eff.org/ http://www.opendvd.org/ http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Gallery/