is there a linux running on jvm arch ?

is there a linux running on jvm arch ?

[FORT David]

I 've tested the User Mode Linux a few times ago, and it gave me an 
idea: given the fact that we had a GCC which
produce bytecode from C, it would be possible to produce a port of 
linux(a new directory "jvm" in the arch dir) which
would run in a Java Virtual Machine. (after some inquiries such compiler 
does not exist :-( )
I'm dreaming of a linux booting in a browser applet(imagine sending such 
thing in a mail to MS peoples !!!!)

RE: is there a linux running on jvm arch ?

[Holzrichter, Bruce]

>I 've tested the User Mode Linux a few times ago, and it gave me an 
>idea: given the fact that we had a GCC which
>produce bytecode from C, it would be possible to produce a port of 
>linux(a new directory "jvm" in the arch dir) which
>would run in a Java Virtual Machine. (after some inquiries such compiler 
>does not exist :-( )
>I'm dreaming of a linux booting in a browser applet(imagine sending such 
>thing in a mail to MS peoples !!!!)

While I am not sure if this is possible with Linux, something like this has
already been done with Inferno.  Check out:
http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/pidoc/index.html

B.

Re: is there a linux running on jvm arch ?

[Alan Cox]

> I 've tested the User Mode Linux a few times ago, and it gave me an 
> idea: given the fact that we had a GCC which
> produce bytecode from C, it would be possible to produce a port of 
> linux(a new directory "jvm" in the arch dir) which
> would run in a Java Virtual Machine. (after some inquiries such compiler 
> does not exist :-( )
> I'm dreaming of a linux booting in a browser applet(imagine sending such 
> thing in a mail to MS peoples !!!!)

The JVM is very very bad from a C language point of view. You can convert C
code to it and there have been some very experimental demos of this. However
it is a very non trivial problem

Alan

Re: is there a linux running on jvm arch ?

[H. Peter Anvin]

Followup to:  <E15CqCJ-0000Co-00@the-village.bc.nu>
By author:    Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
> 
> The JVM is very very bad from a C language point of view. You can convert C
> code to it and there have been some very experimental demos of this. However
> it is a very non trivial problem
> 

Note that PicoJava is basically the JVM with a few extensions to run C
code reasonably.  It might be a better target.

	-hpa
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Re: is there a linux running on jvm arch ?

[Jeff Dike]

popo.enlighted@free.fr said:
> I'm dreaming of a linux booting in a browser applet(imagine sending
> such  thing in a mail to MS peoples !!!!) 

If you really want to help the MS peoples get Linux, consider a straight port 
of UML to Windows.

I've been trying to encourage someone to do this for a while, with limited 
success :-(  Enough has been done that I think I know what the main obstacles 
are, and I think I know that it's possible.

So, if you're interested (and have the appropriate Win-fu) let me know, and 
grab the code and start porting...

				Jeff