From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:43:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:43:40 -0400 Received: from darkstar.internet-factory.de ([195.122.142.9]:33471 "EHLO darkstar.internet-factory.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:43:27 -0400 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Path: not-for-mail From: Holger Lubitz Newsgroups: lists.linux.kernel Subject: Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch. Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:43:25 +0200 Organization: Internet Factory AG Message-ID: <3B3C85FD.B018746D@internet-factory.de> In-Reply-To: <20010628131641.5e10ecca.reynolds@redhat.com> <9hfter$9e7$1@ncc1701.cistron.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: bastille.internet-factory.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: darkstar.internet-factory.de 993822206 13160 195.122.142.158 (29 Jun 2001 13:43:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@internet-factory.de NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Jun 2001 13:43:26 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.5-ac21 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Miquel van Smoorenburg proclaimed: > You know what I hate? Debugging stuff like BIOS-e820, zone messages, > dentry|buffer|page-cache hash table entries, CPU: Before vendor init, > CPU: After vendor init, etc etc, PCI: Probing PCI hardware, > ip_conntrack (256 buckets, 2048 max), the complete APIC tables, etc Well, I _like_ the fact that my machine tells me all that when booting (ok, maybe the APIC tables are a little bit much). Believe it or not - the detailed boot messages were one of the reasons I chose Linux over BSD back in 1993 when I started. I think it gives a valuable feeling for what the OS is up to - even to the unexperienced. A boot parameter for the verbosity would be ok, though. But I'd still vote for the default to be pretty verbose. Leave it to the distributors to disable it, if they want. After all - how often does the average linux machine boot? Once a day at most. Mine usually run until the next kernel upgrade. But then again, I'm not a kernel hacker, so this is to be taken more as a users point of view. Holger