From: Adam Schrotenboer <ajschrotenboer@lycosmail.com>
To: Hua Zhong <huaz@cs.columbia.edu>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 15:24:29 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3B3F78ED.8010609@lycosmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200107011811.OAA05463@razor.cs.columbia.edu>
Hua Zhong wrote:
>-> From Kurt Maxwell Weber <kmw@rowsw.com> :
>
>>You can choose to work somewhere else, or choose to enter a different field.
>>
>
>There are a lot of people who don't know how to use Linux/Unix. Windows is
>much easier for them and has more applications. They practically have no
>other choice if they have to use a computer in their jobs (maybe they can
>Macintosh).
>
>One of my dreams is someday Linux can really be a great desktop operating
>system, but you know that's not yet real now.
>
Yes, and I am not arguing that all my customers should go Linux. But the
way that MS goes marketing their crappy products, bundling w/ Windblows
is atrocious. I have gotten very sick and tired of every one thinking
that because Word is MS product, it must be perfect, or if not perfect,
and least the best possible. I am also sick of being expected to use MS
products, or lose out on school assignments and business b/c M$ was an
asshole and doesn't support Wordperfect, Star Office, etc (yes, I know
that star office can read word)
Because of their predatory practices I am stuck w/ their mediocre
products. I must support their products; I am expected to get a MCSE so
I can get a job (at the moment I work for my father, so I don't need one).
If I want to set up a Linux server (my father and I are working on
making this a solution for a few of our larger customers) I still have
to deal with interoperatbility with a system that breaks all the rules
(standards) makes their own, etc.
Yes, I do do the work, b/c it makes me money (not enough, b/c I can't
get enuff hours, but the hourly pay is terrific), doesn't mean that I
have a choice of whom I support. Yes, I could just drop the field. But
that would mean giving up, and that doesn't sound like a choice either.
So I work within the system to change it. Meanwhile, if this was
something else, I could probably sue for emotional damage or something
else (tongue in cheek). If I was imprisoned wrongly, I could get
compensation right(don't ansewer this, it's rhetorical).
But don't just tell me to butt out, b/c I can't change it. I refuse to
believe that.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-07-01 19:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20010701131254.A9116@tabris.domedata.com>
2001-07-01 17:41 ` Uncle Sam Wants YOU! Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 18:11 ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-01 19:24 ` Adam Schrotenboer [this message]
2001-07-01 20:52 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-02 0:13 ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02 15:09 Jesse Pollard
2001-07-02 17:09 ` William T Wilson
2001-07-02 17:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-02 17:56 ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-02 18:36 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 18:35 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 18:31 ` Jim Roland
[not found] <fa.eu2vnbv.278lg4@ifi.uio.no>
2001-07-02 0:33 ` Ted Unangst
2001-07-02 2:56 ` Michael Rothwell
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-01 17:35 Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-01 20:01 ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-01 20:25 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02 0:29 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 0:56 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02 0:59 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 20:30 ` Mike Harrold
2001-07-01 21:57 ` Tony Hoyle
[not found] ` <3B3FACEC.897D910A@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02 0:06 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02 0:31 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 22:32 ` Marius Nita
2001-07-01 23:27 ` David Schwartz
2001-07-02 0:03 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 0:49 ` Jim Roland
[not found] ` <3B3FF9D7.9582B05B@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02 9:18 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 23:57 ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-02 0:39 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 1:00 ` Justin Guyett
2001-07-02 1:06 ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02 10:26 ` Luigi Genoni
2001-07-01 23:50 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 0:11 ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-02 0:36 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 0:45 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 5:40 ` Graham Murray
2001-07-02 9:19 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 2:11 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-07-02 3:06 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-02 5:37 ` Steve Brueggeman
2001-07-02 13:53 ` Android
2001-07-02 0:26 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 1:36 Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 10:12 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 16:02 ` Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 16:06 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
[not found] ` <3B3F707C.9BF8BCF7@mirai.cx>
2001-07-01 19:03 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 19:24 ` Lew Wolfgang
2001-07-01 20:53 ` David Schwartz
2001-07-01 20:03 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 20:14 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 23:53 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 1:09 ` William T Wilson
2001-07-02 1:19 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 19:37 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-07-02 1:21 ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02 1:48 ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-07-06 19:01 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 18:59 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 19:34 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-07-02 0:20 ` Jim Roland
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