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From: Adam Schrotenboer <ajschrotenboer@lycosmail.com>
To: Hua Zhong <huaz@cs.columbia.edu>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 15:24:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3B3F78ED.8010609@lycosmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200107011811.OAA05463@razor.cs.columbia.edu>

Hua Zhong wrote:

>-> From Kurt Maxwell Weber <kmw@rowsw.com> :
>
>>You can choose to work somewhere else, or choose to enter a different field.
>>
>
>There are a lot of people who don't know how to use Linux/Unix.  Windows is 
>much easier for them and has more applications.  They practically have no 
>other choice if they have to use a computer in their jobs (maybe they can 
>Macintosh).
>
>One of my dreams is someday Linux can really be a great desktop operating 
>system, but you know that's not yet real now.
>
Yes, and I am not arguing that all my customers should go Linux. But the 
way that MS goes marketing their crappy products, bundling w/ Windblows 
is atrocious. I have gotten very sick and tired of every one thinking 
that because Word is MS product, it must be perfect, or if not perfect, 
and least the best possible. I am also sick of being expected to use MS 
products, or lose out on school assignments and business b/c M$ was an 
asshole and doesn't support Wordperfect, Star Office, etc (yes, I know 
that star office can read word)

Because of their predatory practices I am stuck w/ their mediocre 
products.  I must support their products; I am expected to get a MCSE so 
I can get a job (at the moment I work for my father, so I don't need one).

If I want to set up a Linux server (my father and I are working on 
making this a solution for a few of our larger customers) I still have 
to deal with interoperatbility with a system that breaks all the rules 
(standards) makes their own, etc.

Yes, I do do the work, b/c it makes me money (not enough, b/c I can't 
get enuff hours, but the hourly pay is terrific), doesn't mean that I 
have a choice of whom I support. Yes, I could just drop the field. But 
that would mean giving up, and that doesn't sound like a choice either. 
So I work within the system to change it. Meanwhile, if this was 
something else, I could probably sue for emotional damage or something 
else (tongue in cheek). If I was imprisoned wrongly, I could get 
compensation right(don't ansewer this, it's rhetorical).

But don't just tell me to butt out, b/c I can't change it. I refuse to 
believe that.

>


  reply	other threads:[~2001-07-01 19:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20010701131254.A9116@tabris.domedata.com>
2001-07-01 17:41 ` Uncle Sam Wants YOU! Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 18:11   ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-01 19:24     ` Adam Schrotenboer [this message]
2001-07-01 20:52     ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-02  0:13   ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02 15:09 Jesse Pollard
2001-07-02 17:09 ` William T Wilson
2001-07-02 17:49   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-02 17:56     ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-02 18:36       ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 18:35     ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 18:31 ` Jim Roland
     [not found] <fa.eu2vnbv.278lg4@ifi.uio.no>
2001-07-02  0:33 ` Ted Unangst
2001-07-02  2:56   ` Michael Rothwell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-01 17:35 Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-01 20:01 ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-01 20:25   ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02  0:29     ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  0:56       ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02  0:59         ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 20:30   ` Mike Harrold
2001-07-01 21:57   ` Tony Hoyle
     [not found]     ` <3B3FACEC.897D910A@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02  0:06       ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02  0:31     ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 22:32   ` Marius Nita
2001-07-01 23:27     ` David Schwartz
2001-07-02  0:03       ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  0:49         ` Jim Roland
     [not found]           ` <3B3FF9D7.9582B05B@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02  9:18             ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 23:57     ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-02  0:39     ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  1:00     ` Justin Guyett
2001-07-02  1:06       ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02 10:26       ` Luigi Genoni
2001-07-01 23:50   ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  0:11     ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-02  0:36       ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  0:45       ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  5:40         ` Graham Murray
2001-07-02  9:19           ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  2:11     ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-07-02  3:06       ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-02  5:37       ` Steve Brueggeman
2001-07-02 13:53   ` Android
2001-07-02  0:26 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01  1:36 Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 10:12 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 16:02   ` Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 16:06     ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
     [not found]       ` <3B3F707C.9BF8BCF7@mirai.cx>
2001-07-01 19:03         ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 19:24           ` Lew Wolfgang
2001-07-01 20:53             ` David Schwartz
2001-07-01 20:03           ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 20:14             ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 23:53               ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  1:09                 ` William T Wilson
2001-07-02  1:19                   ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 19:37                     ` James A. Sutherland
2001-07-02  1:21                   ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02  1:48                   ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-07-06 19:01                   ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 18:59                 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 19:34                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-07-02  0:20             ` Jim Roland

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