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From: Tony Hoyle <tmh@magenta-netlogic.com>
To: Paul Mundt <lethal@ChaoticDreams.ORG>
Cc: Adam Schrotenboer <ajschrotenboer@lycosmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 22:57:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3B3F9CD5.60701@magenta-netlogic.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3B3F5F5C.40907@lycosmail.com> <20010701130151.A10989@ChaoticDreams.ORG>

Paul Mundt wrote:

>
> You always have a choice, work elsewhere. If you're in a position where you're
> working with MS products, you were the one who made the decision to do so.
> MS is not at fault, claiming so is childish.

Nobody chooses to work with MS, they merely take the job that's offered.

I didn't choose to use MS, I merely chose to be able to pay the rent. 
The choice is basically use MS or don't work in the computer industry.

Hell, I'd even take a pay cut if someone had a Linux job on offer. 
Never seen one... never likely to either in the near future.  MS 
completely owns the business world (and it's not like I've not looked 
either, I'd give anything to get out of the job I'm in now but there's 
very few people hiring at the moment).

I don't think that MS are all wrong...  I even *like* Visual Studio (not 
the .NET one though, beta1 was unusable).  It's just the creeping vendor 
lockin that I hate.

Tony

-- 
"Two weeks before due date, the programmers work 22 hour days
  cobbling an application from... (apparently) one programmer
  bashing his face into the keyboard." -- Dilbert

tmh@nothing-on.tv 
http://www.nothing-on.tv


  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-07-01 21:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-01 17:35 Uncle Sam Wants YOU! Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-01 20:01 ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-01 20:25   ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02  0:29     ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  0:56       ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02  0:59         ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 20:30   ` Mike Harrold
2001-07-01 21:57   ` Tony Hoyle [this message]
     [not found]     ` <3B3FACEC.897D910A@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02  0:06       ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02  0:31     ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 22:32   ` Marius Nita
2001-07-01 23:27     ` David Schwartz
2001-07-02  0:03       ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  0:49         ` Jim Roland
     [not found]           ` <3B3FF9D7.9582B05B@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02  9:18             ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 23:57     ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-02  0:39     ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  1:00     ` Justin Guyett
2001-07-02  1:06       ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02 10:26       ` Luigi Genoni
2001-07-01 23:50   ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  0:11     ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-02  0:36       ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  0:45       ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  5:40         ` Graham Murray
2001-07-02  9:19           ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  2:11     ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-07-02  3:06       ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-02  5:37       ` Steve Brueggeman
2001-07-02 13:53   ` Android
2001-07-02  0:26 ` Jim Roland
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-02 15:09 Jesse Pollard
2001-07-02 17:09 ` William T Wilson
2001-07-02 17:49   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-02 17:56     ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-02 18:36       ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 18:35     ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 18:31 ` Jim Roland
     [not found] <fa.eu2vnbv.278lg4@ifi.uio.no>
2001-07-02  0:33 ` Ted Unangst
2001-07-02  2:56   ` Michael Rothwell
     [not found] <20010701131254.A9116@tabris.domedata.com>
2001-07-01 17:41 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 18:11   ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-01 19:24     ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-01 20:52     ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-02  0:13   ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-01  1:36 Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 10:12 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 16:02   ` Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 16:06     ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
     [not found]       ` <3B3F707C.9BF8BCF7@mirai.cx>
2001-07-01 19:03         ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 19:24           ` Lew Wolfgang
2001-07-01 20:53             ` David Schwartz
2001-07-01 20:03           ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 20:14             ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 23:53               ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  1:09                 ` William T Wilson
2001-07-02  1:19                   ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 19:37                     ` James A. Sutherland
2001-07-02  1:21                   ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02  1:48                   ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-07-06 19:01                   ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 18:59                 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 19:34                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-07-02  0:20             ` Jim Roland

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