From: FORT David <epopo@onetelnet.fr>
To: "C. Slater" <cslater@wcnet.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Switching Kernels without Rebooting?
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 23:50:29 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3B4BCD05.2070107@onetelnet.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <NOEJJDACGOHCKNCOGFOMOEKECGAA.davids@webmaster.com> <001501c10980$f42035a0$fe00000a@cslater>
C. Slater wrote:
>
>>> - Replace all saved structures
>>>
>>>what if the layout of these changes as it often does?
>>>
>>You would want to convert all structures into a neutral encoding scheme
>>that would support transferring structures across versions. BER comes to
>>mind, as it provides for an easy way to ignore stuff you don't understand
>>and support multiple versions of the same object in a single encoding.
>>
>>However, this would be a truly massive task. And the big challenge would
>>
>be
>
>>what to do when an older kernel doesn't understand something essential. It
>>could be simplified significantly by supporting live replacement only of
>>kernels of the same version, but this seems to defeat much of the purpose.
>>
>>DS
>>
>
>I don't think that it would be possible to switch kernels when one was not
>properly set up to do it, if thats what you mean. You could only switch
>between kernels that have been compiled to support live switching.
>
>I do see you'r point with the datastructures changeing. We would need to use
>some format that all properly setup kernels could understand, then we would
>only need to write enough to convert the structs to the middle format and
>back when they change. I am not familer with BER, but if it is suitable, it
>may help.
>
>Are you saying that swaping the kernels out altogether would be a massive
>task, or that saveing/restoring the datastructures would be a massive task.
>
> Colin
>
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I remembered that this thread was longly discussed 1 or 2 years ago on
linux-future
and came to no conclusive end.
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[not found] <NOEJJDACGOHCKNCOGFOMOEKECGAA.davids@webmaster.com>
2001-07-10 20:43 ` Switching Kernels without Rebooting? C. Slater
2001-07-11 3:50 ` FORT David [this message]
2001-07-11 9:10 ` Helge Hafting
2001-07-11 15:41 ` C. Slater
2001-07-11 18:11 ` Switching Kernels without Rebooting? [MOSIX] Carlos O'Donell Jr.
2001-07-12 10:16 ` Switching Kernels without Rebooting? Helge Hafting
2001-07-11 22:12 ` Paul Jakma
2001-07-11 22:14 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-11 22:36 ` C. Slater
2001-07-11 23:44 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-12 1:17 ` C. Slater
2001-07-12 15:39 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-12 16:23 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-12 17:37 ` Mike Borrelli
2001-07-12 18:05 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-13 10:07 ` Pau Aliagas
2001-07-12 18:48 ` Chris Friesen
2001-07-12 10:12 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-07-12 15:32 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-11 22:36 ` David Schwartz
2001-07-12 7:23 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-07-12 10:05 ` Helge Hafting
2001-07-13 6:50 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-07-12 17:58 ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-12 23:24 ` swsusp again [was Re: Switching Kernels without Rebooting?] Pavel Machek
2001-07-13 21:08 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-11 22:46 ` Switching Kernels without Rebooting? Kip Macy
2001-07-11 23:02 ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-12 0:31 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 1:10 ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-11 23:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-12 7:23 ` Ville Herva
2001-07-13 1:11 tas
2001-07-13 3:45 ` Ian Stirling
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-12 15:32 Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 12:23 Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 14:55 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-07-12 4:48 Frank Davis
2001-07-12 5:08 ` John Alvord
2001-07-13 9:10 ` Chuck Hemker
2001-07-12 1:03 Torrey Hoffman
2001-07-12 1:24 ` C. Slater
2001-07-12 10:07 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 12:11 ` Ian Stirling
2001-07-12 12:54 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 14:15 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-07-12 23:17 ` Pavel Machek
2001-07-12 20:47 ` Wilfried Weissmann
[not found] <994895240.21189@whiskey.enposte.net>
2001-07-12 0:10 ` Stuart Lynne
2001-07-11 9:52 David Balazic
2001-07-11 10:08 ` Laramie Leavitt
2001-07-11 19:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-11 15:19 ` C. Slater
2001-07-10 18:42 C. Slater
2001-07-10 18:50 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-10 21:11 ` Jesper Juhl
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