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From: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>
To: "Albert D. Cahalan" <acahalan@cs.uml.edu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Switching Kernels without Rebooting?
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:48:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3B4DF114.44272B74@nortelnetworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200107121623.f6CGNV569053@saturn.cs.uml.edu>

"Albert D. Cahalan" wrote:

> The 24x7 places might be willing to pay somebody to do this.
> It's consulting work really. The customer says "I want to go
> from 2.4.8 to 2.4.12", you say "OK, $320405 please.", and you
> make a custom upgrade procedure for them.

Speaking as someone who is working on what will eventually be a five 9's project
based on linux, there is almost zero chance that we would make use of something
like this.  Applications and kernels are tested together and verified together,
and the likelihood of changing either one and not the other one is very low (and
in fact they are shipped together as a single image).

We have hardware redundancy, and upgrades are controlled by the application,
since it knows exactly what state must be transferred and what the differences
are between versions.  After all the state has been transferred we then do an IP
takeover so that the rest of the system knows to talk to the new side.  At this
point we can test the new side for a while.  If we're satisfied with how its
performing, we can then take down the inactive side and upgrade it and then
bring it back into sync with the active side.  If we don't like it, we can
always abort and switch back to the old version.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-07-12 18:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <NOEJJDACGOHCKNCOGFOMOEKECGAA.davids@webmaster.com>
2001-07-10 20:43 ` Switching Kernels without Rebooting? C. Slater
2001-07-11  3:50   ` FORT David
2001-07-11  9:10   ` Helge Hafting
2001-07-11 15:41     ` C. Slater
2001-07-11 18:11       ` Switching Kernels without Rebooting? [MOSIX] Carlos O'Donell Jr.
2001-07-12 10:16       ` Switching Kernels without Rebooting? Helge Hafting
2001-07-11 22:12     ` Paul Jakma
2001-07-11 22:14       ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-11 22:36         ` C. Slater
2001-07-11 23:44           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-12  1:17             ` C. Slater
2001-07-12 15:39               ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-12 16:23                 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-12 17:37                   ` Mike Borrelli
2001-07-12 18:05                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-13 10:07                     ` Pau Aliagas
2001-07-12 18:48                   ` Chris Friesen [this message]
2001-07-12 10:12             ` Ralf Baechle
2001-07-12 15:32           ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-11 22:36         ` David Schwartz
2001-07-12  7:23         ` Kai Henningsen
2001-07-12 10:05           ` Helge Hafting
2001-07-13  6:50             ` Kai Henningsen
2001-07-12 17:58           ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-12 23:24           ` swsusp again [was Re: Switching Kernels without Rebooting?] Pavel Machek
2001-07-13 21:08             ` Alan Cox
2001-07-11 22:46       ` Switching Kernels without Rebooting? Kip Macy
2001-07-11 23:02         ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-12  0:31         ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12  1:10           ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-11 23:36       ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-12  7:23       ` Ville Herva
2001-07-13  1:11 tas
2001-07-13  3:45 ` Ian Stirling
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-12 15:32 Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 12:23 Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 14:55 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-07-12  4:48 Frank Davis
2001-07-12  5:08 ` John Alvord
2001-07-13  9:10   ` Chuck Hemker
2001-07-12  1:03 Torrey Hoffman
2001-07-12  1:24 ` C. Slater
2001-07-12 10:07   ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 12:11     ` Ian Stirling
2001-07-12 12:54       ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 14:15         ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-07-12 23:17   ` Pavel Machek
2001-07-12 20:47 ` Wilfried Weissmann
     [not found] <994895240.21189@whiskey.enposte.net>
2001-07-12  0:10 ` Stuart Lynne
2001-07-11  9:52 David Balazic
2001-07-11 10:08 ` Laramie Leavitt
2001-07-11 19:12   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-11 15:19 ` C. Slater
2001-07-10 18:42 C. Slater
2001-07-10 18:50 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-10 21:11 ` Jesper Juhl

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