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From: Andrew Morton <andrewm@uow.edu.au>
To: "Jeffrey W. Baker" <jwbaker@acm.org>
Cc: Lance Larsh <llarsh@oracle.com>,
	Brian Strand <bstrand@switchmanagement.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2x Oracle slowdown from 2.2.16 to 2.4.4
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 01:49:36 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3B4F1890.12005981@uow.edu.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3B4E7666.EFD7CC89@uow.edu.au> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0107130834080.313-100000@desktop>

"Jeffrey W. Baker" wrote:
> 
> > ...
> > ext2: Throughput 2.71849 MB/sec (NB=3.39812 MB/sec  27.1849 MBit/sec)
> > ext3: Throughput 12.3623 MB/sec (NB=15.4529 MB/sec  123.623 MBit/sec)
> >
> > ext3 patches are at http://www.uow.edu.au/~andrewm/linux/ext3/
> >
> > The difference will be less dramatic with large, individual writes.
> 
> This is a totally transient effect, right?  The journal acts as a faster
> buffer, but if programs are writing a lot of data to the disk for a very
> long time, the throughput will eventually be throttled by writing the
> journal back into the filesystem.

It varies a lot with workload.  With large writes such as 
'iozone -s 300m -a -i 0' it seems about the same throughput
as ext2.  It would take some time to characterise fully.

> For programs that write in bursts, it looks like a huge win!

yes - lots of short writes (eg: mailspools) will benefit considerably.
The benefits come from the additional merging and sorting which
can be performed on the writeback data.

I suspect some of the dbench benefit comes from the fact that
the files are unlinked at the end of the test - if the data hasn't
been written back at that time the buffers are hunted down and
zapped - they *never* get written.

If anyone wants to test sync throughput, please be sure to use
0.9.3-pre - it fixes some rather sucky behaviour with large journals.

-

  reply	other threads:[~2001-07-13 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-11  0:45 2x Oracle slowdown from 2.2.16 to 2.4.4 Brian Strand
2001-07-11  1:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-11 16:44   ` Brian Strand
2001-07-11 17:08     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-11 17:23       ` Chris Mason
2001-07-11 23:03     ` Lance Larsh
2001-07-11 23:46       ` Brian Strand
2001-07-12 15:21         ` Lance Larsh
2001-07-12 21:31           ` Hans Reiser
2001-07-12 21:51             ` Chris Mason
2001-07-13  3:00           ` Andrew Morton
2001-07-13  4:17             ` Andrew Morton
2001-07-13 15:36               ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-07-13 15:49                 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2001-07-16 22:03                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-07-12  0:23       ` Chris Mason
2001-07-12 14:48         ` Lance Larsh
2001-07-12  2:30       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-12  9:26         ` [lvm-devel] " Andi Kleen
2001-07-12  9:45           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-12 17:04             ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-12 18:18               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-12 22:55                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-13  7:35                   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-13 16:07                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-12  6:12       ` parviz dey
2001-07-11  2:58 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-07-11 15:55   ` Brian Strand
2001-07-11  2:59 ` Jeff V. Merkey
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0107111530170.2342-100000@llarsh-pc3.us.oracle.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2001-07-12 10:14 ` Andi Kleen
2001-07-12 14:22   ` Chris Mason
2001-07-12 16:09   ` Lance Larsh

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