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From: Anders Peter Fugmann <afu@fugmann.dhs.org>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Ongoing 2.4 VM suckage
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 18:24:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3B6AD039.5060809@fugmann.dhs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0108031303000.11893-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva>

I dont know task states are defined, but by 'running' I mean that it is 
  not stopped by the VM, when the VM needs to fetch memory for the 
process. What I meant was that if we could somehow garrentee that a 
process runs at least for one time-quantum, the system would not grind 
to a halt but just feel slow since resheduling occur less often (due to 
waiting ie. for memory to be swapped in).

Is there a way to know if a running task needs something that has been 
swapped out, if so we could flag the process and not schedule it out 
right away:

Flag the current process, it the VM kicks in, and only resched if the 
flag is clear, othervice the scheduler just clear the flag.



Still I'm not quite sure what the reason for problem is. Could somone 
please summerize it for me. Untill now I assume that one of the problems 
is that multible processes are "fighting" eachother for memory, and thus 
  working against eachother.


Regards
Anders Fugmann

Rik van Riel wrote:
> We don't know which additional memory the big task will
> need until we let it run a bit and do its page fault.
> 
> 
> Rik
> --
> Virtual memory is like a game you can't win;
> However, without VM there's truly nothing to lose...
> 
> http://www.surriel.com/		http://distro.conectiva.com/
> 
> Send all your spam to aardvark@nl.linux.org (spam digging piggy)
> 
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2001-08-03 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-08-02 18:29 Ongoing 2.4 VM suckage Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-08-02 18:52 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-02 19:10   ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-08-02 19:54     ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-02 20:10       ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-08-02 20:16         ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-02 20:28           ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-03 17:59             ` David Ford
2001-08-03 20:53               ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-03 21:59                 ` Mike Black
2001-08-03 22:08                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-04  1:06                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-03 23:58                   ` [PATCH] Disable kswapd through proc (was Ongoing 2.4 VM suckage) Daniel Phillips
2001-08-04  7:21                   ` Ongoing 2.4 VM suckage Stephen Satchell
2001-08-06  8:55                     ` Helge Hafting
2001-08-06 16:37                     ` Jeremy Linton
2001-08-07  7:51                       ` David Weinehall
2001-08-03 22:47                 ` David Ford
2001-08-02 21:01         ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-02 21:11           ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-08-02 21:44             ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-08-02 21:52               ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-08-02 21:56                 ` Miles Lane
2001-08-02 22:05                   ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-08-02 22:07                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-02 22:17                   ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-08-02 22:27                     ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-02 22:32                       ` Jeffrey W. Baker
2001-08-02 22:56                       ` BERECZ Szabolcs
2001-08-03 13:07                       ` jlnance
2001-08-03 13:31                         ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-06 13:22                         ` Luigi Genoni
2001-08-06 13:29                           ` David S. Miller
2001-08-02 23:46                     ` Ongoing 2.4 VM suckage pagemap_lru_lock Jeremy Linton
2001-08-02 22:15                 ` Ongoing 2.4 VM suckage Pavel Zaitsev
2001-08-02 22:20                 ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-08-03 12:04 ` Anders Peter Fugmann
2001-08-03 16:03   ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-03 16:24     ` Anders Peter Fugmann [this message]
2001-08-03 21:24       ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-03 22:00         ` Anders Peter Fugmann

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