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From: Dan Kegel <dank@kegel.com>
To: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] /dev/epoll update ...
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:22:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BAADC9A.EE129CF7@kegel.com> (raw)

Davide wrote:
> If you need to request the current status of 
> a socket you've to f_ops->poll the fd.
> The cost of the extra read, done only for fds that are not "ready", is nothing
> compared to the cost of a linear scan with HUGE numbers of fds.

Hey, wait a sec, Davide... the whole point of the Solaris /dev/poll
is that you *don't* need to f_ops->poll the fd, I think.
And in fact, Solaris /dev/poll is insanely fast, way faster than O(N).

Consider this: what if we added to your patch logic to clear
the current read readiness bit for a fd whenever a read() on
that fd returned EWOULDBLOCK?  Then we're real close to having
the current readiness state for each fd, as the /dev/poll afficianados 
want.  Now, there's a lot more work that'd be needed, but maybe you
get the idea of where some of us are coming from.

Christopher K. St. John is requesting example code using /dev/epoll
that does not use coroutines.  Fair enough.  Christopher, take a look
at any program that uses the F_SETSIG/F_SETOWN/O_ASYNC/sigio stuff in the
2.4 kernel (for example, my Poller_sigio.cc at http://www.kegel.com/dkftpbench/dkftpbench-0.31.tar.gz )
and mentally replace the sigtimedwait() with Davide's ioctl, kinda.
The overhead of not knowing the initial poll state is at most one
or two system calls per fd over the life of the program, I think,
so it's not too bad.

- Dan

             reply	other threads:[~2001-09-21  6:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-21  6:22 Dan Kegel [this message]
2001-09-21 18:45 ` [PATCH] /dev/epoll update Davide Libenzi
2001-09-21 19:40   ` /dev/yapoll : " Christopher K. St. John
2001-09-21 20:10     ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-21 20:21       ` Christopher K. St. John
2001-09-21 21:36         ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-21 21:33           ` Christopher K. St. John
2001-09-21 21:52             ` Davide Libenzi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-20  3:49 [patch] " Davide Libenzi
     [not found] <local.mail.linux-kernel/3BB03C6A.7D1DD7B3@kegel.com>
     [not found] ` <local.mail.linux-kernel/3BAEB39B.DE7932CF@kegel.com>
     [not found]   ` <local.mail.linux-kernel/3BAF83EF.C8018E45@distributopia.com>
2001-09-25 17:36     ` [PATCH] " Jonathan Lemon
2001-09-25 18:34       ` Dan Kegel
2001-09-24  4:16 Dan Kegel
2001-09-24 19:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-24 19:34   ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-24 20:09     ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-24 21:56       ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-24 22:08         ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-24 22:09           ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-24 22:20             ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-24 22:21               ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-24 22:30                 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-25  9:25             ` Dan Kegel
     [not found] ` <3BAF83EF.C8018E45@distributopia.com>
2001-09-25  8:12   ` Dan Kegel
2001-09-19  2:20 Dan Kegel
2001-09-19  6:25 ` Dan Kegel
2001-09-19  7:04 ` Christopher K. St. John
2001-09-19 15:37   ` Dan Kegel
2001-09-19 15:59     ` Zach Brown
2001-09-19 17:12     ` Christopher K. St. John
2001-09-19 17:39     ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-19 18:26     ` Alan Cox
2001-09-19 17:25   ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-19 19:03     ` Christopher K. St. John
2001-09-19 19:30       ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-19 21:49         ` Christopher K. St. John
2001-09-19 22:11           ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-19 23:24             ` Christopher K. St. John
2001-09-19 23:52               ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-20  2:13             ` Dan Kegel
2001-09-20  2:28               ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-20  3:03                 ` Dan Kegel
2001-09-20 16:58                   ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-20  4:32                 ` Christopher K. St. John
2001-09-20  4:43                   ` Christopher K. St. John
2001-09-20  5:05                     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-20 18:25                       ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-20 19:33                         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-20 19:58                           ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-20 17:18                   ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-24  0:11                     ` Gordon Oliver
2001-09-24  0:33                       ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-24 19:23                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-09-24 20:04                       ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-21  5:59             ` Ton Hospel
2001-09-21 16:48               ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-19 17:21 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-09-07 19:27 Davide Libenzi

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